Subj : Re: Various Things To : Daryl Stout From : Brian Rogers Date : Thu Jun 03 2021 19:07:00 Hello Daryl; -=> Daryl Stout wrote to Brian Rogers <=- DS> Since I can't have RF gear at the QTH, I'm only on the air for the DS> nets that I run (via "internet radio"). It's hard enough finding folks DS> to be Net Control, and my license isn't just a sheet of paper. The DS> purists don't like this approach, but it was either operate this way, DS> or quit the hobby. I have potential Net Controls who will NOT run a net because of such. Using the internet typically does not allow one to properly hear when a double is occurring and a good net control will turn down NCS duties for such reasons. I tend to agree. Feel free to classify me as an RF purist in this regard. DS> The thing is, even if you use one of the remote base operations, if DS> propagation is horrible where you are, and at every other point...you DS> aren't going to hear anyone on RF. And, if someone else is using the DS> remote base when you want to use it, you have to operate later, or are DS> just "SOL". We don't seem to have any issues with RF only... and we have a LOT more hills to deal with than you do in the plains. DS> With the QuadNet Array (https://openquad.net) with D-Star, DMR, DS> WIRES-X, or Fusion...or CQ100...you will hear someone on frequency, and DS> they won't be down in the noise and weeds. When you use analog you don't have to worry what any repeater is speaking DS> None of us is getting any younger, and just like a shelf at the DS> store, or a buffet at a restaurant, if a hobby isn't replenished with DS> new blood (for everyone quitting the hobby or dying off), sooner more DS> than later, the hobby will die off as well. This has basically already occurred on packet. Name any station that is RF only and you'll name a station not listed on any other. Also the fact that most refuse to follow good network practices is another issue that's killed it. Nothing worse you can do is to pull in a massive nodes table in which 90% are NOT reachable to give a newbie the feeling that the mode does NOT WORK. DS> Kids nowadays couldn't give a rats rear end about the heritage, DS> current state, or future of any hobby. They are so enamored into their DS> tablets and smartphones, and that's "their own little world". Once an DS> EMP hits, every piece of electronics (vehicles, gas pumps, POS DS> terminals, communications, etc.) is going to get fried. When that day comes, I'll be laughing like hell too DS> With COVID-19 higher in portions of the country, you wonder if things DS> will ever get back to some sense of normalcy. Admittedly, at the DS> moment, Arkansas is doing better than some states. Covid-19: free government's dream to install communism through Dr. Fauci! He needs to go back to collecting bridge tolls DS> Three things fail when we get older. Memory is first... What did you say?? DS> Don't ever let him try to order take out Chinese food. Try watching this guy, sit through the full show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnOQQ_FQGns Very funny stuff! .... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly --- MultiMail/Linux v0.49 þ Synchronet þ SBBS - Carnage! *73 de N1URO* bbs.n1uro.com:2300 .