Subj : Re: Anyone out there have any? To : Derision From : Lizard King Date : Tue Oct 23 2018 18:32:16 Re: Re: Anyone out there have any? By: Derision to Lizard King on Tue Oct 23 2018 17:08:57 > I'm curious as to how many crimes, gun-related or otherwise, are actually > thwarted due to a citizen having or using a gun. I'm not for or against them > -- personally, I'm not into guns but if someone else is, then that's their > right -- but the argument you hear most is that it's useful for > self-defence, or the oft-regurgitated "the only way to stop a criminal with > a gun is a law-abiding citizen with a gun" argument, but I haven't actually > seen hard numbers regarding how often such a thing is useful or has actually > made a difference. The trouble with this is that these incidents are not generally reported, so no one tracks them. I can tell you that it IS generally understood by police, particularly in rural areas, that citizens use firearms to protect themselves and it's even encouraged. For instance, about 15 years back I was living on 5 acres of property -- on the property I had a detached office which had once been someone's hunting cabin. It was, of course, full of computers, and I had an alarm system installed. This particular day at about 7am the phone rang, and it was the police. They'd received an alert from the security company that the alarm in my office was going off. I thought it was odd they were calling and the conversation went something like this: "So... how long do you think it will take an officer to get out here to check it out?" "We're stretched pretty thin. Probably about an hour." "Whatever is happening will be over in an hour." "Yes, that is probably true." "I'm going to grab a shotgun and walk up and check it out." "Okay. Be careful, sir." "Always." It turned out there was no burglar; motion sensor fell off the wall. I also know a guy who was approached by two men in a dark parking lot, unholstered his pistol and chambered a round. The two men, without saying a word, turned around and left. I suspect these things happen all the time in places it's legal for regular people to own guns. //lizard_king --- þ Synchronet þ Retro Underground - retrounderground.org:6423 .