Subj : Re: Dune 2021
To   : Arelor
From : Boraxman
Date : Sun Dec 26 2021 21:22:00

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 Ar>   Re: Re: Dune 2021
 Ar>   By: Boraxman to Arelor on
 Ar> Fri Dec 24 2021 10:10 pm

 >  >  Ar> I loved the Harkonen ending in which you walk into the Emperor's pal
 >  >  Ar> and shoot him in the face :-)
 >
 >
 > The soundtrack to that game was awesome.  Multiplayer functionality would ha
 > been fantastic.  I remember discussing how sorely this game needed multiplay
 > like Warcraft back in the mid 90's.  I also think dune 2 had more strategy t
 > it than later real time strategy games.  Just swarming the base with enemies
 > wouldn't work, you had to use each units in a specific way to win.  In later
 > games, you could just flood the base and win by sheer numbers alone.
 >

 Ar> There are modern FOSS engines which use the original assets of the
 Ar> game, and I think some support multiplayer.

 Ar> The problem with so many RTS titles is that they turn into matches
 Ar> about who can click faster when they become human vs human. Even
 Ar> Command and Conquer pretty much turned into pumping up light/middle
 Ar> tanks, and the one who rushed with them the quikests won :)

 Ar> When I want to exercise my thinking, I prefer turn based strategy
 Ar> games. When I want to exercise my reflexes, I prefer shooters or
 Ar> platformers. RTS fall in a weird spot where they have a bit of thinking
 Ar> (you have to build your rush engine, so you end up learning some
 Ar> opening "moves") and then a lot of clicking and micromanaging.

 Ar> What I like from RTS is the single player campaigns, because they feel
 Ar> like puzzles to be solved. Most early RTS gave you a lame base and
 Ar> pitted you against an enemy with heavy defenses, and the challenge was
 Ar> to find out a way to crack those defenses.

Dune 2 was really the last RTS I got into.  I did play Warcraft a little, and
Dune 2000 and Red Alert, but I think apart from Warcraft, I didn't finish the
others.  Rise of Nations I have too, and that is OK, but I only play skirmish
time to time.  I think this was for the reason you mentioned that the games
quickly turned into who could scramble the fastest, rather than strategy.  I
was always on the lookout for a RTS type game, which was on a larger scale but
was more on grand military strategy than swarming, but never found one.


Should probably look into a good turn based game.

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