Subj : Trump or Harris?
To   : Dumas Walker
From : Neofree
Date : Mon Aug 12 2024 17:32:39

  Re: Trump or Harris?
  By: Dumas Walker to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sun Aug 11 2024 08:21 am

 > > -> America is uniqe place in the world, and the entire country is right
 > > -> leaning.
 > > -> Our democrats are nothing but moderates here.  We don't know what true
 > > -> socialism
 > > -> is because we haven't lived through that for even 1 second.
 > > the problem is people will all say it was not done effectively.
 > 
 > If you talk to people who have lived through it, or Communism, they
 > usually were not happy with it and were often so not-happy that they now
 > live in the US.
 > 
 > 
 >  * SLMR 2.1a * Armadillo: A mouse built to government specs.

You're talking about the Soviet Union, Chinese communism, and stuff like that. See some dude all he did was write a book and became Marxism.  And what happene
with the ideas in the book lead to a very warped view of the intent.   The
intent was always a peoples government for the people.  Well countries with
pretty sketchy histories like this didn't implement the way it was written. 
You can call Soviet Union communism if you want.  But it's not very different
from Nazi Germany - and here's why.  Yes the actual government structure is
different, that's not what I'm talking about.  What I'm talking about is that
the Soviet Union in particular basically took a dictatorship mentality to it. 
So it's basically a Dictator Administration that is in control of a communism
or socialism style government.

Countries like Spain are examples of socialism that is NOT the same.  Yes back
in the day Spain has done invasions, but not in recent history.  We're not seei


Spain suppo the Ukraine invasion now are we?

The problem is you really have to study history.  This is why college educationpeople are more often to be Democrats. You need to not think that every group
of people would implement it the same.    And fear is just that, Fear. 
Complete waste of time.  There are socialism and communism like groups that
don't want to copy off the Soviets or China.  Some will say that's fine, but itjust builds the framework to someone to take over the head and convert it to a
dictatorship.  Well, truth is, it doesn't matter WHAT governemnt style a
country is.  It doesn't have to be radically redesigned to change it into a
dictatorship.

All that said, no I don't want the USA to go socialism or communism.   But
America already has social programs, and that's all we really do.  So we make
programs to help people, sure, but we're not controlling every aspect of
industry or anything like that to better manage the country's resources.  I do
NOT suppor this!  I don't think any president canditate in my lifetime that hada chance of being voted for came even close to socialism, not even Bernie
Sanders.

Thanks

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