Subj : Russia's Defeat To : Kaelon From : Arelor Date : Tue Aug 01 2023 17:12:40 Re: Russia's Defeat By: Kaelon to Arelor on Tue Aug 01 2023 11:00 am > Similarly, Russia may have made a financially catastrophic miscalculation in > orks and cryptocurrency to survive, but it has achieved / restored economic > This is a problem I have with the modern Western style in general: we think we are the center of the world and we believe we can destroy somebody just by refusing to be their friend. I think this problem comes from modern Cancel Culture. We as a civilitation have discovered we can destroy Jack if we convince enough people that Jack is afilthy fascist so they don't buy stuff from it. The issue is that then we try to translate this to higher spheres of politics and it just doesn't scale. The West has this idea that we are the most important people on the planet, so if we exclude you from Eurovision and our trade systems, your country has no more entertainment and no more trading going on. This fantasy falls appart quickl¤y once you realize there are more humans living in the Indochina area than out of it. RE: Everybody likes the NATO arrangement; there are strong anti NATO movements in member countries. Since NATO members tend to be (nominally) democracies, I think this is not to be dismissed. In fact a number of anti-NATO people I can think of would use your wording as an example of why NATO is to be avoided: it has NATO members pay protection money/resources so America gets to be the world's police (actually, the people I think of would rather say it has memberspay protection money so America gets to be an imperialistic power). The only thing you need to know is that for Spain to get into NATO, it took thePresidential Candidate Felipe Gonz lez to tell his voters that he would never support a NATO deal in order to be elected, because nobody wanted to participate in the NATO. Then he got placed into office and supported the NATO deal anyway against the will of the voters. -- gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken --- ş Synchronet ş Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL .