Subj : Re: Y'all or Ya'll? To : Margaerynne From : Gamgee Date : Tue Jul 25 2023 07:50:00 -=> Margaerynne wrote to Gamgee <=- Ma> Re: Re: Y'all or Ya'll? Ma> By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Jul 19 2023 09:13 pm > I think that's all correct. It's also a sign of those countries being > much more receptive to the ideas/beliefs of socialism, which is > generally not very well received here in the USA. Independence, > freedom, and small government / small taxes are sort of a fundamental > thing in America, and have been since .... 1776. ;-) Ma> A communal mindset isn't only present in socialism. Ma> Americans used to be very community-minded and eager to Ma> participate in civic life. Ma> After all, why wouldn't you want your neighborhood to flourish? Ma> Why wouldn't you want Ma> the best for the schools that educate your children, the city Ma> that they live in, and Ma> the state they claim as their home? Ma> People didn't join fraternities, industry-specific credit Ma> unions, and neighborhood councils Ma> because they were stupid or communists -- they joined because, Ma> as in 1776, it makes the most Ma> sense to join with people like you. Ma> Hell, even the titans of industry collaborated and colluded all Ma> the time. Ma> It's the most American thing there is, all the way back to "Join Ma> or Die". All true, and no argument from me on any of it. Please remember, though, that the topic of discussion was basically that Europeans are generally more receptive to socialism - as in who pays for the "free stuff". College educations and the forgiving of student debt, to be specific. .... Socialist w/knife & fork seeks capitalist w/food. --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52 þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL .