Subj : Re: Russia's Endgame
To   : Moondog
From : Boraxman
Date : Fri Oct 07 2022 20:43:00

-=> Moondog wrote to Boraxman <=-

 Mo>   Re: Re: Russia's Endgame
 Mo>   By: Boraxman to Dumas Walker on Mon Oct 03 2022 10:39 pm

 > -=> Dumas Walker wrote to BORAXMAN <=-
 >
 >  > I'm not sure, but I'm highly skeptical of the Western narrative.  Accordi
 > to
 >
 >  > Western press, Russia has been losing this war since the beginning, and w
 >  > the annexation of four territories having occured, it seems hard to belie
 >  > this analysis is accurate.  Western leaders are just going to pretend it
 > didn'
 >
 >  > happen, but that is what we do in the West now.  Play make believe and
 >  > excoriate anyone who doesn't go along.  Americans like to declare victory
 > when
 >
 >  > they haven't actually won.  Americans think that SAYING A makes A a reali
 >  > It's really odd.
 >
 >  DW> As someone who lives in America, the news I have been hearing has not
 >  DW> been that Russia was losing since the beginning.  Matter of fact, the
 >  DW> news earlier on was very bleak for Ukraine.  It does not seem that the
 >  DW> Russia is losing narrative started up in earnest until after we gave
 >  DW> Ukraine a bunch of money.
 >
 >  DW> Maybe we are watching different news sources.  I cannot say that there
 >  DW> are not any that have been on the "Russia is losing" bandwagon since
 >  DW> the beginning, but I didn't see any.
 >
 > Perhaps you're using different news sources. In Australia, the nightly news
 > says almost nothing about the conflict.  The main internet news sites here a
 > mostly putting out stories about how Russia is in trouble, Putin is about to
 > die, Ukraine is winning. They've been doing this for months now.
 >
 > Maybe the U.S. news is more realistic?  That would be a pleasant surprise.
 >

 Mo> FRom what I've seen, the coverage of Ukreaine has gone down.  The news
 Mo> loves stories about Putin and his crazy antics.  My guess is the US
 Mo> press doesn't have the same level of access they do with US military
 Mo> forces.  Iknow some reports are intentionally delayed and tactical
 Mo> commentary is discouraged in order to keep the Russians guessing about
 Mo> the Ukraine's next move.

From the stories I've seen, Putin is about to die, or has come close to death
every week, and that Ukraine has another victory.  But the stories lack
details, they read more like tabloid celebrity news.
 
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