Subj : Re: Recession to Depressi To : Arelor From : Dr. What Date : Mon Jul 25 2022 08:32:00 -=> Arelor wrote to Dr. What <=- Ar> That is all good in paper. Many things are good on paper, but Bruce is talking about real life. Ar> My observation from playing hundres of board games is that people is Ar> actually very bad at deciding for the best option for themselves and Ar> that there are lots of arbitrary psychological factors kicking in. This Ar> also applies in real life in spades, but I bring up board games because Ar> the impact is measurable. The problem with board games is that they are games. Is a person who stands to lose their imaginary sword going to play the game the same way if they were going to lose their car? No. So, yes, people will make bad decisions in games - because they have less to lose and don't care. Ar> Fast forward to real life, I can tell so many stories about people Ar> backstabbing a third party for 3000 EUR of benefit when a deal between Ar> the two would have made them tens of thousand of Euro. It is freaking Ar> nuts. Yes, it is. And that's an example of a child-minded person who values short term gains over long term ones. And is a good example of how society is keeping people child-like longer - to the detriment of society. Ar> This applies in so many fields of life. Jack has hut where he throws Ar> parties with friends. One day the wind damages the roof very badly and Ar> Jack asks for friends for help in order to get it repaired, because Ar> Jack is one-handed and has a wooden peg for a leg. Game theory dictates Ar> that at least one of Jack's friends will help out, because for a Ar> limited investment, everybody will get to continue having parties in Ar> Jack's hut. What happens is that everyone of Jack friends stays at home Ar> bored forever more because they don't want to spend the meagrest of Ar> resources, usually because they never gave a damn for Jack to being Ar> with. And you are ignoring the many instances of "barn raising" and how communities come together to help each other in times of need. I would argue that Jack didn't have friends. He had a bunch of users who took advantage of him. He was willfully ignorant if he couldn't see that. .... When talking nonsense try not to be serious. ___ MultiMail/Linux v0.52 --- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32) * Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi .