Subj : Capitalism vs. Corporatism
To   : Boraxman
From : Arelor
Date : Sun Jul 24 2022 06:44:54

  Re: Capitalism vs. Corporatism
  By: Boraxman to Arelor on Sun Jul 24 2022 12:09 pm

 > My questions were rhetorical.  We know that people in general want self-gove
 > vern ourselves.
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 > We understand and support the concepts behind Democracy, even though the app
 > doesn't follow for the same people to think that running a pet food factory 
 > ering, that the world would fall apart if we didn't skew property rights tow
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First of all, I'd argue that most people are not actual democrats and therefore
the rethorical questions fall on their faces. You can see this today: everybody
wants democracy, but once they don't get the results they want they try to
break the system. The efforts placed in isolating political oponents break
democracy.

You have mentioned multiple times that our current governing systems is failed
because there is a gap and a missalineation between rulers and rules. If I were
to conceede the government is a cooperative, I would destroy your thesis that
cooperative ownership works by pointing at the innumerable failing
"cooperatives", so I am doing you a favor by arguing Governments are not like
cooperatives.

In a democratic system you get the improductive scumbags to vote so the
productive losers give up their earnings to the improductives. THere is strong
incentive for a significant (and I would say mayoritary) segment of the
population to spand the power of the government and ruin Jack's rights in the
process if need be. The push in politics, at its very base, at the guy next
door level, is to destroy self-ownership. Cooperatives may have pathological
behaviours from time to time but I haven't see such level of rot in any I know.


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