Subj : Capitalism vs. Corporatism
To   : Boraxman
From : Arelor
Date : Thu Jul 21 2022 06:29:03

  Re: Capitalism vs. Corporatism
  By: Boraxman to Kaelon on Tue Jul 19 2022 09:47 pm

> I imagine a world where human beings are fully self governing, where no one is      
alientated from their own economic activity and we all direct our economic activity  
rather than have it directed by Capital.  Capital is just a factor supplier and      
commodification of things is limited, where human need and national interest trumps  
private desire for profit.  An ownership economy consisting of a massive patchwork of
private enterprises, which consist if US, responding as always, to market demands,   
wants, needs.
>

You keep mentioning we need an idea from out of the socialist-capitalist spectrum,
then keep suggesting things that Primo de Rivera already advocated for and became
Spanish Fascism.

There are only two ways of managing things. One is to let somebody you trust manage
them. The other is to let people manage them. Your standard proposal is to turn
workplaces into Unions, arguing this falls into the category of letting people do the
management, and while variations of this arrangement exist everywhere on the wild
already, I think it is obvious by now that there are lots of industries in which this
arrangement won't cut it.

But we already end up having this conversation so you already know how this goes.

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