Subj : Re: Recession to Depression
To   : Andeddu
From : Boraxman
Date : Sat Jul 16 2022 14:38:15

  Re: Re: Recession to Depression
  By: Andeddu to Boraxman on Fri Jul 15 2022 03:17 pm

 >  > I think the biggest problem is lack of revolutionary though.  We are
 >  > stuck with old ideas, with ideology, thinking that ideology (Whether it
 >  > is Capitalism or Socialism) will get us out.
 >
 > Although the ordinary man may lack revolutionary thought, I believe there is
 > a revolution going on and we are moving in a very specific direction. It
 > would be hard for me to belive that there is NO PLAN once our civilation
 > collapses... there will always be a kind of contingency plan.
 >

Revolution doesn't mean revolutionary thought.  We could have a "revolution" where Marxist-Communists take over.  That is old thought.

The problem as I see it, is that we are stuck with old ideas and cannot imagine any change.  Economically, the debate seems stuck between "Capitalism" and "Socialism" (at least Socialism as envisaged by Marxist/Statists) and we think that we have to choose between the two.  We can't imagine any new system or new novel ways of looking at property rights, or carrying on the evolution of our economic system further.  Everything is petty.  UBI changes nothing.  Stakeholder Capitalism is just the same old system with a new face.  Politically we are stuck again with old ideas.  Nothing really new, except for maybe the SJW's, but that really is just rehashed Christian guilt.

We're looking at all these problems, and can't think of any new direction to go in to solve them.  We cant imagine anything outside the "Capitalism/Communism" dichotomy, so we are limited by that.  We can't imagine anything oustide of "Liberalism/Conservatism", so we are limited by that.

We need something like a new Enlightenment.  One isn't coming.

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