Subj : Great Replacement Theory
To   : Kaelon
From : Boraxman
Date : Wed Jun 01 2022 20:52:00

-=> Kaelon wrote to Boraxman <=-

 Ka>   Re: Great Replacement Theory
 Ka>   By: Boraxman to Kaelon on Mon May 30 2022 09:51 pm

 > This is nonsensical.  No one is seeking to "create" anything, but rather to
 > STOP a process.

 Ka> I think the process is largely unstoppable, not without a real
 Ka> replacement to the solution to the problem - which I have argued
 Ka> repeatedly is demographic in origin.  If Britain were to surpass 2,100
 Ka> births for every 1,000 women, it would no longer be in demographic
 Ka> crisis within one generation.  China and Korea can impose immigration
 Ka> restrictions because it has a demographic crisis in the other direction
 Ka> -- too many people, not enough resources to maintain them.

Perpetual population growth is simply not sustainable.  We MUST face a new
reality, that populations are not going to always increase.

It is expected at some point in this or next century, that this will become the
norm.  We simply cannot be reliant on alway having above replacement population
growth.

The size of the population will wax and wane, but the problem is not the
birthrate.  It is our inability to adapt to a world with education, birth
control, automation and machinery.

The process is not unstoppable.  Government policy created it, and government
policy can be changed.

But I do issue a warning, I do not believe that things will play out the way
people think.  The more balkanised the population, the MORE identity politics
will come into play.

White people are simply the last to realise that Identity Politics IS the
politics of the 21'st century.  Idiot conservatives are the ones who are blind
to this, as they are still stuck in the 1950's.

 Ka> This is a new tangent, and I am happy to debate it, but there is vast
 Ka> evidence that shows that the policy of the Third Reich - beyond what it
 Ka> publicly espoused in documentation - was racialist in origin.  Every
 Ka> decision made during the Second World War, from electing not to
 Ka> complete Operation Sea Lion against the British, turn its attention to
 Ka> Russia and the expansive East, or to divert critical manufacturing
 Ka> resources to hasten the shipping of Jews to the concentration camps in
 Ka> the final year of the war, were all premised upon the real aim - what
 Ka> Himmler would later state "even if we lose, future generations will
 Ka> laud us for our achievement" - which was to depopulate the continent of
 Ka> non-Aryans. _____
 Ka> -=: Kaelon :=-

They were racialist, but they were Nazi's before they were racialist.  The very
fact they were able to kill other Europeans by the hundreds of thousands for
their own regime's view of history I think demonstrates where their priorities
lie.  They killed Eastern Europeans by the millions, who clearly are
genetically closer to them than the Japanese they allied with.

Not to mention the Germans they killed, or were willing to sacrifice.  The more
the war dragged on, the more it seemed that Hitler was willing to sacrifice so
much blood for what he believed to be the real cause, manifest destiny.  The
Germans were supposed to rule, and if they couldn't, they weren't worthy of it
and didn't deserve to survive.  The people, he saw, were just fodder for an
IDEA.  Absolute statism!  Fascism!

Fascism and this type of statism are completely incompatible with a state which
exists for a peoples prosperity.  At least when done by Westerners.  China for
some reason has managed to maintain a Fascist state which hasn't become
demographically dysgenic, but I think this is due to a different mindset. 
Perhaps because they aren't interested in Empire.

The theories of the Third Reich weren't their inventions, but ideas which had
been floating around beforehand, some of them quite preposterous (belief in
hollow earth, hyperboreans).  They misunderstood (or abused) Darwins beliefs
and took a more occult/mystical analysis than any scientific or demographic
analysis.

My view is that it was a dysgenic mind-virus.  It became pathological because
it believed that there was an arc of history, a destiny, a particular telos, or
end goal.  Such ideologies ALWAYS end up pathological and destructive. 
Communism, Nazism, any ideology which supposes a "right side" and "wrong side"
of history, which believes that there is this one outcome which must come about
will turn bad, and will twist ideas to justify itself, and the power of those
who rule by it.

None of this is related to how wide you hold the gates into your own country. 
These are seperate things.  You will NOT find in your research, accusations
against Germany for not wanting to become a multiracial state, or not being
diverse.  The idea that not embracing the Ben & Jerry's vision of the future
makes one therefore a Nazi is a poor application of the slippery slope fallacy,
the same as arguing that any liberalisation of sexual mores will lead a retern
of pederasty.
 
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