Subj : Great Replacement Theory
To   : Kaelon
From : Arelor
Date : Fri May 27 2022 13:37:04

  Re: Great Replacement Theory
  By: Kaelon to Arelor on Fri May 27 2022 09:42 am

 > My general impression of Barcelona and Catalunya in general, is that the
 > suppression of Catalan identity - seen as a threat to the overarching Spanis
 > identity - is a far more serious threat to Spain's cultural values than the
 > permissible importation of Moroccans into the region.  Nevertheless, the
 > formation of Spain consists of largely unassimilated regional powers from th
 > middle ages which worked cooperatively (and today, autonomously) for the ide
 > of the modern Spanish State.  This only works if the idea of an overarching
 > Spain prevails, and while it certainly was forced upon the population throug
 > Monarchy and Fascism, today, the democratic experiment is producing uneven
 > results that have nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with
 > failed assimilation of languages and cultures.
 > 

Spain's downfall is Hispanoamerica's: we lack juridical security and therefore
nobody creates any business intended to last, because laws may change at any
time and illegalize your business without prior notice. ONly excaptions are the
people rich enough to buy politicians as usual. We are not at the Argentinian
level but give us a decade and we will get there.

Catalonia is an interesting case because the idea of a Catalonian identity has
been mostly manufactured for political reasons. You often see this in other
smaller regions, where a party rescues a forgotten language from the 8th
century and some old customes, proclaims those to be the heritage of a given
area, and starts trying to get people to join around those concepts and build a
group which differentiates itself from the rest of the country. The main
difference here is that Catalonian politicians have been successful unlike,
say, Asturians or Leonens regionalist groups.

I certainly would be more sympathetic towards Catalonians if they weren't
defacto nazies. I am fine if a region wants to vote to leave - I am a firm
believer that power must be atomized - but when the people needing the voting
spends so much political time proclaiming the ethnical superiority of
Catalonians over everybody else, it is hard to support that people.

Catalonia is far from oppresed, come to think of it. They have more powers
transfered to them than other Autonomies, they use the Catalonian language in
the Administration nearly without restrictions, they operate their own TDL and
they have their own police and tax force. Their representation in Congress is
also much higher than their actual size grants. Nevertheless, they spend a
considerable effort trying to convince foreigners that Spain is a big bad that
rapes Catalonians and steals their stuff.

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