Subj : Great Replacement Theory
To   : boraxman
From : Kaelon
Date : Fri May 27 2022 09:31:44

  Re: Great Replacement Theory
  By: boraxman to Kaelon on Thu May 26 2022 08:45 pm

 > But the question is, WHY?  Why is it that we are asked to partake in this
 > social engineering?  You are taking the need to do this at face value, based
 > upon a very specific American ideology.

The fact that you even pose this question reflects that you view the world - and your country - in racially monolithic terms. If you are interested in advancing one race at the cost of another race, then simply embrace your racist or racialist identity, rather than bristling at the term.  It is, simply put, nativist (at best) and racist (at worst) to state that immigration is a form of "social engineering," when in fact, countries that endure immigration are complicit in the factors that led up to immigration being "forced" upon it.

 > As I have pointed out, America is not the world (though it is incredibly
 > arrogant and imperialistic, to be sure), and the 'melting pot' that your
 > country has decided is its manifest destiny isn't necessarily a goal
 > elsewhere.
 >
 > You are taking it as a 'given' that we must become melting pots, and the
 > issue is whether we do this succesfully or not.  My argument is that the
 > creation of the melting pot IS a moral hazard, regardless of whether it is
 > done "successfully" or not.

If you want to halt immigration altogether (which seems to be what you are advocating here - you don't want a "melting pot," and you also don't want non-whites in your country (again, a racist perspective) - then you need to confront the demographic failures of your country.  It starts with birth rate (and this is controversial) but until your country generates 2,100 births for every 1,000 women, it in effect cannot replace its population to stay population neutral.  Most Western Countries have abysmal birth rates (born, primarily, out of economic factors - not societal ones), and so, you should consider making it more economically appealing for men and women to procreate.  Parental leave, social safety nets, childcare, and broader incentives for training and enabling populations are multi-generational investments.  But as the Nordic countries will show, they can be successfully applied.

 > If the theories are "crackpot theories", the please tell me, at what point
 > can immigration in these countries stop?

Your agenda is pretty clear.  You view immigration as a threat to the cultural identity of your country; there is certainly merit in discussing how countries that are incapable of building true melting pots are threatened by unassimilating populations (like France's muslims, or Germany's turkic populations). But Western European countries are generally complicit in the factors that led to the uptick in immigration to begin with: such as France's imperial ambitions in Africa leading to vast destabilization of the magreb and sub-saharan region, or Italy's brutal occupation of Ethiopia and interference in Lybia.  Europeans haven't been willing to pay reparations to those countries, or invest in African development, and so you have a situation where entire populations are trapped in failing states that the Europeans raped and pillaged as recently as the 1960s.

 > What %ge does the white population need to drop to, in order for it be
 > acceptable to change immigration policy so that it doesn't drop further?  In
 > ANY Western/European country?

I think you have a beef with your country's legislative policies, and so you should take it up in the political process.  Some countries have effectively halted or redirected immigration (see: Austria and Hungary) only to discover massive shortfalls in talent, population, and/or tax-bases.  White Europeans haven't generally taken the steps necessary to create monolithically racial states the way that the Asians culturally do, but again, I would point to the Nordic example, which emphasizes integration and assimilation but discourages immigration through raising birthrates of its own population.

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