Subj : Pedro S nchez is living m
To   : Dr. What
From : Boraxman
Date : Mon Apr 04 2022 19:39:28

  Re: Pedro S nchez is living m
  By: Dr. What to Boraxman on Sun Apr 03 2022 07:00 pm

 > -=> Boraxman wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
 > 
 >  Bo> Allowing people with money to do as they like doesn't work either.  The answer is somewhere in between.
 > 
 > Actually, it does.  Again, read Thomas Sowell.
 > 
 > Allowing people with money to do as they like "doesn't work" only to the "intellectuals" who don't have money and lack the
 > ability to acquire money.
 > 
 >  Bo> We tend towards extremism, where we either believe that we shouldn't intervene in the economy at all, OR, manage it
 >  Bo> carefully.
 > 
 > Now, I do have to agree with this.  Our society tends to take things to extremes without thinking.
 > 
 > If something is "good", then doing more of it must be better.  Similarly, if doing something in excess is bad, then doing no
 > of it must be best.
 > 
 > But that's not the case for most things.  ex: salt.  Too much salt is bad for you, but salt is a necessary thing.  Yet peopl
 > think that they should completely eliminate it.
 > 
 > The problem with this idea and intervening in the economy is that to allow the gov't ANY extra power has shown that the gov'
 > will only take more over time.
 > 
 > The scamdemic has had more and more people starting to question the reach of gov't into our lives today.
 > 
 > Why do we need to ask the gov't's permission to run a business?
 > Why does the gov't get to set rules about how someone does their job?
 > 
 > The ignorant Left want to keep us "safe" but that's proven to be a smoke screen.  (Hint: restaurants who's customers get foo
 > poisoning and builders who make houses that fall down don't stay in business very long.)
 > 
 >  Bo> We don't
 >  Bo> really have an ideology which is based on moderation,
 >  Bo> Socialism/Communism and Capitalism are both extreme, totalitarian
 >  Bo> ideas, where they insist that everything has to be compliant with their values systems.
 > 
 > If you think that Capitalism is an "extreme, totaltarian idea" then you have been brainwashed.
 > 
 > 
 > ... You have mistaken me for someone who gives a damn

I disagree that "the market" will sort out the dodgy players.  It may for a restaurant which poisons many, maybe, but for large
businesses, no.  The institutions which nearly brought down the worlds economic system in 2008 still have customers.

I am a consequentialist, and freedom is judged not by contracts and papers, but by lived experience.  This "economic
liberatarianism puts "on paper" freedom over experienced freedom.  Freedoms and rights are in tension, and are not absolute. 
Ones engagement with the public at large does need some moderation to assure institutions and systems serve the public good,

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