Subj : Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
To   : JIMMYLOGAN
From : Dumas Walker
Date : Sat Nov 01 2025 11:07:06

>  >  DW> He did help expose some hypocrasy in today's college students, even if
>  >  DW> you don't agree with the methods he used to to so, but his melding of
>  >  DW> religion and politics was objectionable and dangerous.

>  > I'm gonna disagree with you there. Politics is supposed to be
>  > "of the people, for the people, by the people." The 'people' have
>  > a religious belief which is inseperable from their inner being.

>  > For example, do you vote your religious beliefs? I would assume
>  > so...

>  DW> Not necessarily.  Religious beliefs and moral values are related in a
>  DW> lot of people, but melding politics and religion together is dangerous.
>  DW>  We don't live in a theocracy.  If someone is running for office and
>  DW> supposedly shares my religious beliefs, but I also believe they would
>  DW> ruin the country's economy, security, etc., I would not vote for them.

> Okay - let me be a little more direct. If someone 'supposedly' shares
> your belief but you think they would ruin things, do they really
> share your beliefs?

Politically, no, and that is what I look at when I vote.

> In other words, if someone shares your beliefs about transgender,
> that there is only two genders, would you support them? Because
> if you believe that's not positive for the country as a whole,
> then do you really have that belief to begin with?

> Does that make sense?

If they share my beliefs about transgender -- that for some it is a real
affliction but that it is also being used as a dangerous net to snare kids,
and that trans-women don't belong in women's sports -- but they either plan
to address this in a way that I do *not* support *OR* have a bunch of other
ideas about unrelated things that I think are really bad, then we may share a
belief but I would still hesitate to support them.

In other words, their religious convictions could match mine 100% but they
still may have ideas that are so bad I would have to ignore the religious
similarities and not support them.

Even if I voted 100% with my relgious convictions, I would still have 100%
not voted for either major party candidate because neither Trump nor Harris
ticked many/any religious boxes for me.  Very, very few politicians ever
would.


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