Subj : Intel: Once mighty, now falling?
To   : tenser
From : Accession
Date : Tue May 20 2025 18:26:36

Hey tenser!

On Wed, 21 May 2025 00:51:26 +1200, you wrote:

 > What issues are those?

From what I've read, CPU burnout due to voltage spikes, and core parking apparantly not working correctly. Also performance issues (ie. not as good as originally advertised) due to them using the Zen2 codebase in order to rush it out the door because they were more familiar with it.

Although, I got this all from the interwebs so it could all be wrong. ;)

 > I've been working with AMD chips for a few years now; this is on
 > the server side, where we design and build our own boards, as we
 > are a computer vendor.  We don't use AMD's proprietary UEFI-based
 > firmware (that is, we use neither AGESA nor OpenSIL).  We wrote
 > our own, directly in the operating system (we run Unix).

What do you recommend if one were to build a new homelab, replacing an Intel Xeon E3-1230 CPU? Mind you, I wouldn't be looking to spend a ton, but would at least want better than what I currently have (more than 4x2 cores/threads).

 > My sense is that Intel's failures are a) they were really late
 > getting onto a 7nm process, basically missing the boat on that
 > one, and they haven't been able to keep up with AMD on the power
 > consumption/heat side.  Frankly, AMD is just producing a better
 > chip.

Do we really need desktop processors that have 24 cores? It seems there have been issues ever since going over 8. I'm currently running a Core i9-9900k with 8 cores and 16 threads. Never felt the need to overclock, and I can throw anything at it that I would normally do, and yet it continues to run super smooth. *shrug*

 > Also, Intel keeps favoring the x86 business over other, possibly more
 > lucrative spaces.  Canceling Tofino seemed like a huge mistake, for
 > example; there was literally nothing else on the market that did what
 > Tofino2 could do.  It was short-sighted madness.

I take it this is more in the commercial market? I only deal with my personal computers, I don't work in the field or anything, so am lacking a lot of knowledge as to what goes on in the industry.

Regards,
Nick

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