Subj : Re: C.P. Addition: Children of David of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon To : All From : Peter Stewart Date : Fri Sep 07 2018 02:48 am From: Peter Stewart On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 8:44:28 AM UTC+10, Peter Stewart wrote: > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 6:56:31 AM UTC+10, celticp...@gmail.com= wrote: > > Dear Newsgroup ~ > > > > Complete Peerage 6 (1926): 647, footnote l (sub Huntingdon) discusses t= he children of David of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon (died 1219). It sta= tes Earl David had three sons and three daughters: Robert, Henry, and John,= and three daughters, Margaret, Isabel, and Ada. A seventh child David is = suggested by the editor. > > > > Recently I came across a Common Pleas lawsuit dated Easter term 1303 wh= ich deals with the heirs of Alexander III, King of Scots (died 1286). The = lawsuit may be viewed at the following weblink: > > > > Court of Common Pleas, CP40/147, image 50 (available at http://aalt.law= ...uh.edu/AALT6/E1/CP40no147/IMG_0050.htm). > > > > The lawsuit names the three main competitors to the Scottish crown then= living, namely John de Hastings (plaintiff in the lawsuit), John de Ballio= l, and Robert de Brus. The lawsuit states how each of the competitors were= descended from King Alexander III's great uncle, David of Scotland, Earl o= f Huntingdon (died 1219). Since these lines of descent are covered by many= other published sources, they will not be repeated here. > > > > Something which is new in the lawsuit is a list of the children of Davi= d of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon. The lawsuit alleges that Earl David was= successively succeeded by three sons in turn, namely Thomas, David, and Jo= hn, and that following John's death, he was succeeded by his four sisters, = Alice (who died without issue), Margaret, Isabel, and Ada. > > > > Contemporary records, however, show that Earl David was succeeded on hi= s death by his son, Earl John (died 1237). When John died without issue, h= is properties were divided by his surviving sisters, Margaret, Isabel, and = Ada, or their representatives. There appears to have been a fourth sister,= Maud, wife of John de Monmouth, who predeceased her brother John and she d= ied without issue. > > The four sisters were named correctly in the claim of John de Balliol ("J= ohannes obiit sine herede de corpore suo, unde de eodem Johanne descendit j= us, et debuit descendere, Margarete, Ysabelle, Matildi, et Ade, ut sororibu= s et uni heredi, si regnum esset partibile"). You can find this in Edward S= tones & Grant Simpson (editors), *Edward I and the Throne of Scotland, 1290= =E2=80=931296: An Edition of the Record Sources for the Great Cause*, 2 vol= s (1978), vol ii p 140, and in Foedera vol i/part II p 776. And also in the same order (but with Ada as Alda) in 'Annales Londonienses'= , see *Chronicles of the Reigns of Edward I and Edward II*, edited by Willi= am Stubbs, 2 vols (1882=E2=80=931883), vol i p 126 ("Ranulphus comes Cestri= =C3=A6 habuit quatuor sorores: primogenita nomine Matillda [sic] fuit despo= nsata comiti David ... Matillda primogenita habuit filium quemdam nomine Jo= hannem qui [habuit] comitatum Cestri=C3=A6, et quatuor filias, Margaretam, = Isabellam, Matilldam et Aldam.") Peter Stewart --- NewsGate v1.0 gamma 2 * Origin: News Gate @ Net396 -Huntsville, AL - USA (1:396/4) .