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 (HTM)   A macOS app that blurs your screen when you slouch
       
       
        fidansin wrote 15 min ago:
        Ok, I share my screen all the time.. not going to happen
       
        accidc wrote 28 min ago:
        Very cool. I did something extremely similar for a personal project.
        
        However, I was not familiar with Swift, the app was more or less vibe
        coded.
        
        My next goal was to learn swift patterns to refactor the app into
        something that was understood and robust.
        
        I will be reading though your sources to understand production quality
        Swift!!
       
        JCharante wrote 1 hour 17 min ago:
        might be obvious but you have to calibrate it while in your target
        posture
       
        _helporme wrote 2 hours 31 min ago:
        I am using it 10 minutes and I already hate it since it's too good.
       
        ifh-hn wrote 6 hours 10 min ago:
        I don't have a Mac, but even if I did would I have it constantly
        watching me? No. This sort of thing creeps me out.
        
        Still, always good to see someone push out a new app. Well done.
       
        Simran-B wrote 8 hours 16 min ago:
        No image in the readme, bummer.
       
          halapro wrote 4 hours 42 min ago:
          Why are programmers so bad at this? It's never been easier to take
          and share screenshots, but a lot of technical people would rather
          write and have you read 500 words than post a single screenshot.
          Boggles my mind.
       
            cpt_sobel wrote 2 min ago:
            Maybe it blurs on a level lower than what the screenshot can
            capture
       
        coolandsmartrr wrote 9 hours 32 min ago:
        I think this is an interesting application of computer vision for
        healthcare purposes.
        
        I've noticed that the app tends to use 15% of my CPU constantly. I
        wonder if there is room to improve efficiency so that the app does not
        hog resources.
       
          kusokurae wrote 6 hours 11 min ago:
          And herein lies the rub: higher up in the comments we've got people
          Very Excited that this was co-written with a bot.
       
        acedTrex wrote 9 hours 51 min ago:
        You can tell its slop cuz its 1k lines in a single main.swift file lol
       
        kgarten wrote 10 hours 49 min ago:
        Quite a while back, a former student of mine built Nekoze :D [1] Nekoze
        warns you when you are hunched over.
        
        Years back, we did a couple of whimsical prototypes along those lines
        (using J!NS MEME, smart glasses):
        
 (HTM)  [1]: https://nekoze.app
 (HTM)  [2]: https://youtu.be/LXIY2g-twOA
       
        rendaw wrote 10 hours 54 min ago:
        Slouching is caused by the design of chairs and soreness in a single
        sitting position. I have a love-hate relationship with my Salli chair,
        but angle your legs down and slouching is no longer an issue, to the
        point where you don't even need a back on your chair.
       
        oug-t wrote 11 hours 3 min ago:
        I code on my bed, guess no slouching at all
       
        nsm wrote 12 hours 17 min ago:
        Highly recommend the LookAway app if you are on macOS and looking for
        something encouraging you to take breaks and maintain good posture.
       
        cacoos wrote 14 hours 22 min ago:
        this is great! I made one for nail-biters:
        
 (HTM)  [1]: https://github.com/cacoos/trackhands
       
        rekabis wrote 15 hours 6 min ago:
        Not that I have particularly bad posture, but…
        
        > Posturr uses your Mac's camera
        
        Not all of us have web cams, or are willing to tolerate them from a
        security perspective. [apologetic grin]
       
        netik wrote 15 hours 16 min ago:
        Great, so now my eyes and back are going to be f'd. Just step away from
        the screen and take regular breaks.
       
        minton wrote 15 hours 56 min ago:
        Lots of things people might want to monitor for such as nail biting.
       
        oarfish wrote 17 hours 24 min ago:
        I guess it's technically cool, but one should be aware that there is no
        such thing as "good posture" or no accepted definition that lends
        itself to good science. 
        slouching isnt bad, remaining in the same posture for a long time is,
        or at least it can lead to discomfort. people that sit up straight all
        the time still get back pain. i slouch all the time and i don't. The
        popular attachment to specific configurationa of your joints that look
        aeathetically acceptable os orthorexia, not science.
       
          joquarky wrote 9 hours 32 min ago:
          Just make sure you stretch several times throughout the day. 
          Especially if you're an anxious person.
          
          Otherwise when you reach your mid-40s, you may find that you'll have
          to spend years painfully breaking up a lot of adhesions.
       
            oarfish wrote 5 hours 20 min ago:
            Adhesions are not really a thing as far as i know. Biggest priority
            is strength and cardiovascular training and maintaining a good body
            composition and stress level. Then I'd think about stretching.
       
          aylmao wrote 13 hours 12 min ago:
          Another thing to note: slouching and back pain tend to have more to
          do with back strength than people realize.
          
          I have suffered back discomfort and pain in periods I haven’t gone
          to the gym for long enough to lose back muscle.
       
            oarfish wrote 5 hours 14 min ago:
            Does it? I think strength may be related to pain if you're very
            weak, and statistically there are big confounders (i.e. people who
            are weak also have other conditions that exacerbate pain
            experience). But past a certain point I don't think the evidence
            suggests that strength itself is protective. Otherwise, competitive
            lifters would never experience back pain for instance, but they
            still do. Pain is multifactorial, and strength is not the only
            determinant by far.
       
          PlatoIsADisease wrote 13 hours 20 min ago:
          Given I can be 2 inches taller if I stand up perfect. That's the one
          I want.
          
          How to achieve it? Not sure. Years of physical therapy and I know the
          position, but:
          
          >I can't remember to do it.
          
          >I feel my body is tight and pulls me back, so I'm constantly
          fighting it.
          
          >It hurts. Both tiring, and I feel pains in other parts of my back
       
          iwontberude wrote 16 hours 46 min ago:
          I spend most of my time at work on a medicine ball switching between
          switching, kneeling and standing. At home I switch between reclined,
          semi-reclined, upright and standing. I think its been working great.
       
          lexoj wrote 17 hours 21 min ago:
          As my doctor used to say: the best posture is the next one.
       
        yieldcrv wrote 17 hours 31 min ago:
        .gitignore
        > # Claude Code
        > .claude/
        
        Congratulations! I love seeing people express themselves to release
        things that were previously not economically viable to prioritize
        
        Forget worrying about a 10x dev, Claude Code with the Opus 4.5 model
        has turned me into a 100x developer even in software stacks I'm not
        even familiar with. And with playwright-mcp its completely absolved the
        need for UX designers in my workflow because I just point
        playwright-mcp at an already established and A/B tested website for its
        UX principles. This gives me results far beyond what v0, lovable or
        Claude Code would come up with on its own.
       
        dottjt wrote 18 hours 8 min ago:
        It would be great if there was something like this, but for not wearing
        reading glasses.
       
        nailer wrote 18 hours 13 min ago:
        About 20 years ago they was an early XDG /Compiz plugin called
        ‘literal focus’ - as a joke, it only focused the focused window.
        It’s amusing to see this technique being used more practically.
       
        hk1337 wrote 18 hours 32 min ago:
        This is a really cool idea. I’m a little put off with the idea that
        my camera is always watching me but the thought behind it is really
        cool.
       
          cmckn wrote 17 hours 42 min ago:
          I kind of feel the same way, but I want to try it. I’m pretty sure
          I have a spare webcam lying around, it could be interesting to have a
          “trusted” sensor for this app so that I can still keep my main
          webcam locked down.
       
        RyanShook wrote 18 hours 36 min ago:
        Works pretty well, probably too resource heavy to just always keep on.
        Suggestion: give the user a shortcut key to close the app in case the
        blur goes haywire on them.
       
          tjohnell wrote 17 hours 49 min ago:
          Hi - thanks for the feedback. I've improved CPU usage with the latest
          release. I'll look into a kill switch.
       
        einsteinx2 wrote 18 hours 41 min ago:
        I’ve had chronic back problems due to computer use and back posture
        for 20+ years. This past year I bought an adjustable height desk and an
        Aeron chair to try and help, but I still slouch constantly without
        realizing it.
        
        I cloned this a few hours ago and started using it and it’s amazing
        how effective the blur is! And it’s frustrating to learn how quickly
        I start slouching the second I’m not paying attention.
        
        I’ll echo what I’ve seen others saying about how cool it is to see
        something come about due to LLM coding that likely wouldn’t have
        otherwise. Glad to see you actively working on it, and I’ll be using
        it every day!
        
        P.S. I’ve been an iOS and Mac dev writing Obj-C and then Swift for 16
        years now, so if you run into any issues that Claude isn’t sorting
        out feel free to reach out to me, you can find my contact via my GitHub
        which is in my profile (same username as hear). Also as I’ll be using
        this regularly, if I come up with any improvements I’ll be sure to
        open a PR!
       
        russellbeattie wrote 19 hours 3 min ago:
        That whole "good posture" thing is future physical problems waiting to
        happen. For 25 years, I've always put my feet up on the corner of my
        desk (to the left), set the seat as high as possible (or adjust the
        desk lower) and lean back, arms extended. Basically, I'm positioned
        like an F1 driver in a cockpit.
        
        No back problems as there's no weight on my spine. No carpal tunnel
        issues, as my wrists are always flat. No fatigue from holding my body
        at right angles for hours at a time.
        
        The downside is I look like a total slacker in the office, especially
        to narrow minded image conscious managers who expect me "to act
        professionally."
       
        didip wrote 19 hours 39 min ago:
        lol, whenever I am hacking intensely, I am lying down on my bed with
        laptop tilted with the perfect angle.
        
        I guess this app won’t catch me slouching then.
       
        lasgawe wrote 19 hours 45 min ago:
        Is there anyone out there who’s productive and sitting upright?
        Asking for me..
       
        altern8 wrote 19 hours 50 min ago:
        I can't seem to open it. It keeps saying "Apple could not verify
        “Posturr.app” is free of malware that may harm your Mac or
        compromise your privacy.".
        
        I tried opening by right-cliking on the app file, holding option, etc.
        
        I'm on Sequoia 15.7.3 (24G419)
       
          tjohnell wrote 14 hours 12 min ago:
          This should no longer be a problem. I am notarizing the app!
       
          peesem wrote 19 hours 45 min ago:
          you have to go into your Privacy & Security settings and scroll down
          until you see something like "Posturr.app was blocked to protect your
          Mac." and then press "Open Anyway"
       
            altern8 wrote 18 hours 57 min ago:
            Ohhh... Thank you!
            
            Is this new? In previous version I could just right-click and it
            would open it.
       
              tom_ wrote 16 hours 17 min ago:
              Looks like this changed for Sequoia: [1] And looks like Sonoma
              was the last version to support the right click menu:
              
 (HTM)        [1]: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mh40616/1...
 (HTM)        [2]: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mh40616/1...
       
        avhception wrote 19 hours 50 min ago:
        So now I gotta squint while I slouch!
       
        fatliverfreddy wrote 19 hours 59 min ago:
        Guzzles my CPU, cool though! Would use if it didn't eat up half a core
        to boot.
       
          tjohnell wrote 18 hours 3 min ago:
          I reduced the vision processing to about 10 fps as well as reduced
          camera resolution. I saw about an 80% reduction in CPU! Thanks for
          the feedback.
       
        sahiljagtapyc wrote 20 hours 1 min ago:
        I wonder if this is less about “bad posture” and more about how
        people unconsciously optimize for stability when thinking deeply. When
        I’m reasoning through something hard, I tend to lock into whatever
        position minimizes micro-adjustments - even if it looks terrible
        ergonomically.
       
        zsoltkacsandi wrote 20 hours 2 min ago:
        One thing I learned from my physio: in your spine, everything is
        connected.
        
        For example, even if you sit perfectly upright, if you have anterior
        pelvic tilt, it can change the whole dynamics of your spine, that the
        cervical segment takes a lot of load that it isn't supposed to do.
        
        Or with bad habits you can reprogram your neuromuscular system that it
        uses the wrong muscles to maintain posture, that can lead a series of
        problems long term.
        
        If you have back/neck pain or tension that does not resolve in 1-2
        weeks, go to a physio.
       
        hackernj wrote 20 hours 3 min ago:
        Black Mirror is nearly here.
       
        taf2 wrote 20 hours 9 min ago:
        Love it - I did something like this for when codex is done - a script
        runs to detect if I’m at my computer or not and then notify my phone
        if I walked away that it’s done - mostly so I can get back to
        slouching ;)
       
        byteflip wrote 20 hours 14 min ago:
        Would be cool to see integration with something like Upright Go or
        other sensors you place on your back that detect tilt etc.
       
        jama211 wrote 20 hours 23 min ago:
        Sounds like a good idea but “good posture” meaning being upright is
        just such an outdated and incorrect thing. Be comfortable, relax in
        your chairs, it’s fine.
       
          byproxy wrote 18 hours 51 min ago:
          A good video on this:
          
 (HTM)    [1]: https://youtu.be/n7h8H4nGeMw
       
        rdslw wrote 20 hours 44 min ago:
        Congrats on the app.
        
        I'm seeing that "great-ai-unlock" is happening. I see in last month a
        lot of new software being codeveloped with claude/codex/gemini/you-name
        it.
        
        Before, it was too costly to do sth like the Posture app: here, you
        would have to know Swift and apple apis to write such tool. Would you
        be C# (very good) programmer with free weekend, and an idea: no cookie
        for ya.
        
        These days, due to "great-ai-unlock" your skills can be easily
        transferred and used to cross platforms boundary and code such useful
        app in a weekend or so.
        
        Jevons paradox is indeed working ( [1] ).
        
 (HTM)  [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox
       
          __float wrote 11 hours 31 min ago:
          Maybe this is a naive take, but I don't really think LLMs have done
          that much to change the actual situation around ability/outcomes. If
          you are actually a very good C# programmer, knowing Swift and
          searching some Apple documentation seems very reasonable.
          
          It might help "unstick" you if you aren't super confident, but it
          doesn't seem to me like it's actually leveling up mediocre
          programmers to "very good" ones, in familiar or unfamiliar domains.
       
            suprfnk wrote 1 hour 56 min ago:
            No I can confirm this. I am at least an average C# dev, with 16
            years of experience.
            
            I have built a very nicely responsive real-time syncing iOS app in
            what amounts to a weekend of time. (I only have an hour here and
            there, young kids) I had zero iOS/Swift development experience
            prior to it.
            
            I can also confirm that this wouldn't have been built if it weren't
            for Claude Code. It's "just" an improved groceries app, that works
            especially well for my wife and me.
            
            Without LLM's, and with just an hour here and there, I wouldn't
            have done the work to learn the intricacies of iOS and Swift dev,
            set up the app, and actually tweak and polish it so it works well
            -- just to scratch the itch of a bit better groceries handling.
       
            bobbylarrybobby wrote 8 hours 59 min ago:
            I don't care how good of a programmer you are, if you don't know
            Apple stuff (Swift, Xcode, all the random iOS/Mac app BS) you
            aren't making an Apple app in a weekend. Learning things is easy
            but still takes time, and proficiency is only earned by trying and
            failing a number of times — unless you're an LLM, in which case
            you're already proficient in everything.
       
            shlant wrote 9 hours 39 min ago:
            > I don't really think LLMs have done that much to change the
            actual situation around ability/outcomes
            
            from my own experiences and many others I have seen on this site
            and elsewhere, I'm not sure how anyone could conclude this.
            
            > it doesn't seem to me like it's actually leveling up mediocre
            programmers to "very good" ones
            
            Oh well then if this is your metric then maybe your take is
            correct, but not relevant? From the top level comment I thought we
            were talking about the bar being lowered for building something
            thanks to AI and you don't need to become any better at being a
            programmer to do so.
       
          fleebee wrote 12 hours 47 min ago:
          I don't see how the Jevons paradox would apply here. Code being
          cheaper and faster to produce obviously causes the demand for apps
          such as this one to grow. That's just supply and demand.
          
          An example of where I think the paradox would apply might be one
          where LLMs made software engineers more efficient yet the demand for
          SWEs would grow.
       
          codersfocus wrote 13 hours 2 min ago:
          What a stupid thing to call a paradox. When infrastructure is better,
          you'd expect it to be used more.
       
            avarun wrote 11 hours 10 min ago:
            It's because they're misusing the term. Jevons' paradox doesn't
            apply to the simple idea that "cheaper code leads to more demand
            for code", that's just the concept of price curves.
            
            Instead, Jevons' paradox refers to a counterintuitive rebound
            effect: AI tools make engineers more productive, which you'd expect
            to reduce the marginal demand for additional engineers (since the
            same output requires fewer people). In reality, this efficiency
            lowers the effective cost of software development, sparking even
            greater overall demand for new features and projects, which
            ultimately increases total spending on engineering talent.
       
          tjohnell wrote 18 hours 17 min ago:
          Thanks rdslw. I mentioned something similar on my blog post about
          this app here: [1] I love coming up with fun ideas and only having to
          worry about the fun part - not the toil. I would never have made this
          app without llm support.
          
 (HTM)    [1]: https://tomjohnell.com/posturr-a-macos-app-that-blurs-your-s...
       
            victor106 wrote 16 hours 22 min ago:
            Neat app. Any tips on how you used Claude Code to develop this?
       
              tjohnell wrote 15 hours 40 min ago:
              My first prompt was:
              
              "Help me develop a MacOS app that blurs my screen the closer my
              mouse is to the top of the monitor"
              
              That was my PoC to see if there's APIs Claude could find that
              would make this easy to do. Once I proved that worked, I asked it
              to instead help me devise a way to adjust that blur based on my
              posture. It suggested the vision framework and measuring head
              height.
              
              Just kept iterating, one step at a time. Any toil I experienced,
              I asked it to remove or automate.
       
                idk1 wrote 6 hours 49 min ago:
                This is going to sound very basic, but did you do it in a blank
                repo or did you use the cloned integration in Xcode, or a third
                thing I'm not thinking of?
       
                  mft_ wrote 44 min ago:
                  Not the OP, but I’ve had success starting with a blank app
                  created by Xcode with the appropriate language/frameworks (ie
                  something that will already run but does nothing). You then
                  ask Claude to start from that point.
                  
                  The only issue I’ve had is sometimes Xcode not ‘seeing’
                  new files that Claude has created along the way, and needing
                  to add these manually into the Xcode project. (A Google
                  around suggests this shouldn’t happen if you create the
                  project in the right way, and yet it still sometimes does.)
       
        iandanforth wrote 20 hours 48 min ago:
        While this seems to detect posture fairly well, the screen blurring
        doesn't work for me despite allowing what appear to be the relevant
        permissions. (macOS 15.1)
       
          tjohnell wrote 19 hours 0 min ago:
          I've released 1.0.3 with compatibility mode to use public APIs. The
          blur isn't as good, but better than nothing!
       
            tjohnell wrote 18 hours 49 min ago:
            1.0.4 is release with better descriptions.
       
          wklm wrote 20 hours 22 min ago:
          I had the exact same issue and have fixed it here:
          
 (HTM)    [1]: https://github.com/wklm/posturr
       
            tjohnell wrote 18 hours 49 min ago:
            I added compatibility mode that incorporates the public API. Give
            it a shot please. I welcome any feedback.
       
        incanus77 wrote 20 hours 57 min ago:
        Anyone else with progressive lenses just think "I already have this"?
       
          rossdavidh wrote 19 hours 26 min ago:
          Yes, absolutely.  One of the first things I noticed when I changed
          from two pairs of glasses to progressive lenses.  The other thing was
          that, because I don't have to switch glasses to look away from the
          screen, I remember to focus on a distant object every so often.
       
          wkjagt wrote 19 hours 31 min ago:
          I'm due for new glasses, so any laptop use is now a careful
          equilibrium between "text is burry" and "text is too small".
       
        kneel wrote 20 hours 59 min ago:
        This is cool, I built something similar a while back. I originally
        wanted the screen to dim when I slouched but I couldn't get access to
        dimming on OSX. I ended up just playing a noise when I slouched. It
        became so distracting I stopped using it.
        
        The blurring of the screen is a much better idea.
       
        aa_is_op wrote 20 hours 59 min ago:
        Plz make a Windows version :)))
       
        avalys wrote 21 hours 1 min ago:
        You can measure my productivity by how slouched I am.
        
        Sitting up straight at my desk, chair locked, perfect posture? I’m
        doing nothing, maybe looking through System Preferences to change the
        system highlight color.
        
        Sliding down in my chair like jelly, with my shoulders where my butt
        should be and my head resting on the lumbar support? I’m building the
        next iPhone and it’ll be done by 2 AM.
       
          bartread wrote 3 hours 0 min ago:
          This is interesting, because in many ways I’m almost the exact
          opposite.
          
          If I’m slouched in my chair, then I’m either completely
          disengaged or doing something mundane like dealing with email. If
          I’m upright or sat forward then I’m engaged and executing, but
          maybe not thinking deeply - I’m doing something I’ve already
          thought about and decided on. And if I’m on my feet and moving
          around, often doing some mundane chore like emptying the dishwasher,
          then I’m likely thinking.
          
          It’s actually a really good illustration of why one size fits all
          solutions when it comes to work environment and conditions are often
          so unsatisfactory.
       
            dandellion wrote 2 hours 23 min ago:
            I'm like you at 9 a.m. and like grand parent by 9 p.m.
       
          crazysim wrote 5 hours 50 min ago:
          It is OSS, I guess you could invert it.
       
          keyle wrote 6 hours 7 min ago:
          This is both funny and so true. I'm most productive when I'm about to
          fall out of the chair and I don't even care that my elbow is hanging
          off.
       
          CTDOCodebases wrote 6 hours 20 min ago:
          Get a lazy boy, fit a split keyboard to each arm and develop AGI
          then. I’m sick of these RAM prices.
       
          paulmooreparks wrote 13 hours 39 min ago:
          Exactly what I came here to say. I've been programming for 40 years,
          35 professionally, and I didn't find my ergonomic, no-pain, no-RSI
          happy place until I stopped following advice to sit up straight. I
          set my chair with just enough resistance, set the head rest where it
          puts my eyeline directly on my monitors, which are set considerably
          higher than average and about a metre from my head. I can work for
          hours like this now, with no pain.
          
          I could never use an app like this. Maybe I should write one that
          blurs the screen when I don't slouch.
       
          brikym wrote 14 hours 10 min ago:
          I've found something similar. I can measure my stress by how many
          coffee mugs are on my desk.
       
          bahmboo wrote 15 hours 37 min ago:
          That’s funny, but this is about physical health not productivity.
          I’m guessing you are relatively young. Desk jobs are tough on the
          body!
       
          globile wrote 15 hours 37 min ago:
          It would be much more interesting that the system blur when it finds
          we drift from being "in the zone".
          
          "I'm going to quickly shift from my terminal to this chrome tab to
          check this documentation but while it loads I'll get a dopamine hit
          from X."
          
          Blur the screen and help me get back on track...
       
            quinnjh wrote 15 hours 33 min ago:
            it will be interesting to see as these tools emerge to what extent
            the undercontrolled behavior is a piece of a larger cycle of
            attention and context mgmt, or if all of that time can be nudged
            back into the zone
       
          simsla wrote 16 hours 28 min ago:
          This was me, and now I have horrific back pain almost every week. Fix
          what's broken before it breaks you.
       
          sublinear wrote 17 hours 43 min ago:
          Let's not forget the people who work from bed with AR glasses and a
          projector pointed at the ceiling.
       
          jaccola wrote 17 hours 59 min ago:
          Funny, I’m the same. I also like taking walks to think but I’ve
          found that I must have my head pointing almost directly down (I.e.
          looking at my feet). It’s also how I stand thinking in the shower,
          with the warm water hitting my angled neck. Maybe something
          beneficial about that position of the neck, or maybe just habit!
          
          I will also have conversations in my head during my walk, I’ve done
          this my whole life and I’m not sure to this day whether my lips
          move during these or not. In any case, I must get some funny looks
          with head bolted to the ground mumbling to myself…
       
            average_r_user wrote 4 hours 34 min ago:
            Alas, I'm not alone in meditating and thinking while taking a
            shower.
            It's one of the moments of my day when I recollect what happened,
            what I need to do, and what not to do.
            
            The problem is that I can get quite lost during this phase, and hot
            water isn't cheap, so my SO is always threatening to put a big
            timer in the bathroom.
       
              neal_jones wrote 1 hour 12 min ago:
              I’ve gone home from work before to take a shower. At least one
              time I took multiple showers in a work day to think.
              
              I now live somewhere that hot water is expensive and I didn’t
              realize how good things were before.
       
              strogonoff wrote 1 hour 22 min ago:
              My pet hypothesis about why shower is often praised to be such a
              mindful place is that it has not so much to do with water and
              more to do with the fact that for many people life alternates
              between 1) constant social interaction and interruptions from
              other people and 2) bathroom time.
              
              How many people these days have a dedicated home office, off
              limits to anyone else? How many partners sleep in different
              rooms?
              
              Sure, perhaps the sensory experience plays some role, but if your
              bathroom is reliably the most interruption-free place for you,
              naturally you’d form a habit of catching up on all the “slow
              thinking”, most negatively impacted by interruptions, during
              shower.
              
              I’ve seen people with interruption-free solo hobbies (be that
              hiking in the woods, motorcycling, rock climbing, etc.)
              describing similarly mindful experiences, but unlike those shower
              is the lowest common denominator and perhaps one that happens
              most routinely.
       
            whompyjaw wrote 12 hours 18 min ago:
            Uhhh… are you me? No other comment has hit more home. Nice. Mayne
            there’s something about these physical practices helping mental
            abilities.
       
            Fnoord wrote 14 hours 16 min ago:
            Sing it!
            
            As for the software. I would not want a camera on 24/7 (on any
            device, a compromise being my doorbell, which isn't cloud
            connected). It'd defeat the small LED which informs you it is on
            (since it is always-on), and if the machine is compromised this is
            a method to receive personal data.
            
            Actually, I'd prefer a hardware killswitch on things like camera
            and microphone.
       
              butvacuum wrote 10 hours 16 min ago:
              Post-It makes an excelent kill switch for the camera. not
              effective for audio though
       
            parentheses wrote 14 hours 26 min ago:
            I suppose in that position your head has lower elevation, allowing
            for better circulation.
       
            wowzaa wrote 16 hours 10 min ago:
            In my case, though walks help declutter my mind somewhat, for
            deeper thoughts, I have to write it down sitting or laying in the
            bed in the worst of positions. Thinking too deeply while walking
            only leaves me anxious in the end as I tend to get sidetracked a
            lot in conversation and always have to restart the conversation
            over and over again.
       
              visarga wrote 8 hours 3 min ago:
              I used paper a lot to jot my ideas and all sorts of diagrams but
              lately I just pull Claude and chat it out, it works like a
              thinking environment.
       
            j45 wrote 17 hours 44 min ago:
            Wear earbuds like you’re on call or recording something
       
              soulofmischief wrote 17 hours 30 min ago:
              I've fully embraced looking insane in public. Try it some time;
              you won't go back.
       
                j45 wrote 15 hours 29 min ago:
                haha, sounds good.
       
          marginalia_nu wrote 19 hours 35 min ago:
          Gamer lean is when it gets really serious.
       
          TheRealPomax wrote 20 hours 16 min ago:
          Sounds like you're literally the target audience for this app.
       
            amelius wrote 19 hours 49 min ago:
            Not if there is a hard positive correlation between productivity
            and slouching, like they say.
       
          chongli wrote 20 hours 22 min ago:
          My neck is screaming in empathetic pain for your future neck!
       
          dgxyz wrote 20 hours 38 min ago:
          My productivity is generally measured in how much time I sit on the
          porcelain thinking throne first.
       
            rr808 wrote 17 hours 43 min ago:
            I never understood this. Is this why the cubicles are always full
            in the office? WTF I go in there take a dump and leave while the
            people on each side are just silent the whole time. I can think of
            much better places to think.
       
            jacobkranz wrote 20 hours 15 min ago:
            Truer words have never been spoken. That and planning out your day
            & thinking through problems in the shower.
       
              jjp wrote 19 hours 25 min ago:
              Walking the dog is my go to for thinking through problems. The
              dog really loves the hard problems as they get a longer walk.
       
              codyb wrote 20 hours 6 min ago:
              If you delete social media, and leave your phone away from your
              person all day with notifications turned off, you can have these
              moments all the time it turns out.
              
              Considering how much more productive these moments are for me
              than the bullshit I used to do on my phone and social media, it
              was an easy decision to make.
       
                saagarjha wrote 20 hours 5 min ago:
                How do you simulate the warm water?
       
                  j45 wrote 17 hours 29 min ago:
                  Play it on a speaker.
       
                  codyb wrote 20 hours 0 min ago:
                  Oh, lol, now I get your question. Yea, it turns out the
                  silence and lack of distractions are what produce "shower
                  thoughts", more so than the act of showering itself.
                  
                  Doing any relatively rote act like washing dishes, walking
                  places, etc can also give rise to them. Not having a device
                  in your hand to constantly steal your attention really helps
                  though.
       
                    pfannkuchen wrote 18 hours 32 min ago:
                    Showers are generally considered to be relaxing separately
                    from the “shower thoughts” phenomenon.
                    
                    Couldn’t the relaxation be a factor in generating shower
                    thoughts?
                    
                    I suspect that essentially none of our non-ancestors were
                    predated in a hot spring, unlike walking etc, so there may
                    be an environmental cue driven induced relaxation that
                    doesn’t exist for many other activities.
       
                      j45 wrote 17 hours 29 min ago:
                      Solitude is extremely powerful.
       
                      codyb wrote 18 hours 24 min ago:
                      Yea, you relax, and then your brain produces random
                      thoughts about things.
                      
                      I suspect it's just about getting the space to relax,
                      which is why I frequently have thoughts when staring at
                      the wall, or taking a walk, or washing dishes, or doing
                      any other myriad activities which are relatively easy on
                      brain processing.
       
                    lanstin wrote 19 hours 22 min ago:
                    I find pacing to be helpful. As long as there’s not a lot
                    of poles to walk into accidentally. So while outside walks
                    can be more focused you do get the odd head bang.
       
                  codyb wrote 20 hours 2 min ago:
                  With a faucet my good friend!
       
          collingreen wrote 20 hours 51 min ago:
          This is how things get built for me as well. I have a standing desk
          and like using it occasionally but if you see me standing at it you
          can bet I'm doing something typical like emails or chat and not
          thinking deeply.
       
          digitaltinfoil wrote 20 hours 58 min ago:
          this is the way
       
        lcnmrn wrote 21 hours 2 min ago:
        Install a pull up bar in your room. It will fix your back better than
        anything else.
       
          winrid wrote 21 hours 1 min ago:
          1 min plank in the morning is a big help too
       
        PlatoIsADisease wrote 21 hours 19 min ago:
        Anyone want to vibe code this to work on linux or M$
       
          borzi wrote 19 hours 53 min ago:
          Great contrarian indicator for when people say that vibe coding is
          not "real development work" or economically viable/a job in the
          future - here is someone asking if another person can vibe code
          something for them that is single file of swift, the prompt could be
          as simple as "convert this to linux".
       
            PlatoIsADisease wrote 15 hours 2 min ago:
            I literally hire interns to vibe code... sooo.. I don't need to be
            sold.
       
            hungryhobbit wrote 17 hours 40 min ago:
            I don't think Linux has an equivalent of Apple's vision API, and if
            it does I guarantee it's not as robust and isn't baked-in to every
            Linux distro (the way Vision is baked-in to every Mac released
            after X date).
            
            That alone will likely prevent this from just being a "convert to
            Linux" vibe session ... which is unfortunate, as I would LOVE to
            have this on Linux.
       
              PlatoIsADisease wrote 16 hours 56 min ago:
              Yep, this is the bottleneck. Otherwise I would have done the
              prompt myself.
       
        iammrpayments wrote 21 hours 21 min ago:
        Staying in upright posture for too long is also not good for you.
       
        jasonjmcghee wrote 21 hours 22 min ago:
        I'm not sure how you can use a laptop with good posture. An external
        monitor at the right height seems like a necessity.
        
        I'm also optimistic about monitors in the form of glasses- even less
        effort needed to set yourself up for perfect posture. But the sweet
        spot problem is still very much a thing from what I've seen- can't wait
        until it's normal for them to have eye tracking, foveated rendering and
        streaming, and be wireless.
       
          rectang wrote 19 hours 55 min ago:
          When working at a desk I put my 16-inch MacBook Pro on a stand and
          use an external keyboard and trackpad.
          
          I don't like adapting my monitor layout when moving between working
          environments.
          
          Instead of an extra monitor, I have an iPad Pro on a stand.
       
            cyh555 wrote 9 hours 45 min ago:
            Usb type c port can be flickering sometimes when the macbook/laptop
            is elevated.
       
          cosmic_cheese wrote 20 hours 22 min ago:
          Yeah, most of my computer use is with a properly adjusted desk setup
          with external monitors and while it doesn’t bother me to use a
          laptop to jot down some notes or for a short study session, if I try
          to do “real” work at all I quickly become uncomfortable. A cheap
          folding laptop stand (which elevates the laptop enough that the
          middle of its screen is eye level) and wireless KB+mouse dramatically
          improves comfort (and productivity) but the tradeoff is that you need
          a table or other sizable, stable flat surface.
          
          The exception is if there happens to be a reclined-position chair
          (IKEA POÄNG or similar) around; this gives back support and reduces
          neck craning enough to make longer sessions more viable, but it’s
          far from a given that this kind of seating will be available.
       
            lanstin wrote 19 hours 21 min ago:
            If you have interesting enough work, nothing else matters. I have
            written big complex systems while car pooling on a laptop in the
            passenger seat.
            
            The reason for this app is not productivity but for posture.
       
          MengerSponge wrote 21 hours 3 min ago:
          My dog could, but a person with adult proportions probably can't. For
          long-term use, a stand+KB is the only solution I know of [1] It's too
          bad that nobody on the Surface team has managed to crack this! I'd be
          much more interested in one if they had.
          
 (HTM)    [1]: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/86285180/the-roost-savi...
       
            eastbound wrote 18 hours 16 min ago:
            Laptop work is clearly not OSHA-compliant. I’m in France so
            it’s probably regulated a little bit more, but having a screen at
            eye height and a keyboard slightly under elbow height is the first
            line on the security analysis document (le DUERP), at least for
            tertiary workers. And far above “Floor must be non-slippery”
            and “The right to disconnect after 6pm”.
       
              MengerSponge wrote 15 hours 25 min ago:
              Your last sentence is something in quotes that just shows up as
              "The right to ***** *** **". Doesn't look like anything to me.
       
            physicles wrote 19 hours 52 min ago:
            I use the Nexstand K2 (well, the Chinese knockoff I got for $5),
            and I bent some coat hangers to attach to the top of the stand and
            tilt the laptop forward. I’m a tall guy, and the top of the
            screen is even with my eyes. Bonus is that with an X1 Carbon, the
            Lenovo M14 or M14d fits perfectly over the top of the keyboard.
            
            The whole setup fits into a drawstring gym bag.
            
 (HTM)      [1]: https://nexstand.io/
       
          duckruu wrote 21 hours 9 min ago:
          My Apple Vision Pro has all that, and it’s perfect for posture when
          using a MacBook.
       
            mannanj wrote 13 hours 51 min ago:
            Do you wonder about the wifi impact so close to your head?
       
            vunderba wrote 20 hours 14 min ago:
            Isn’t the Vision Pro rather front loaded in terms of its weight
            distribution? Seems like you might just be trading one ergonomic
            problem for another.
       
              duckruu wrote 20 hours 0 min ago:
              It’s not really, with the new dual band which changes the
              weight distribution. If you lean back a lot it’s obviously
              going to rest on your face then, but that’s a good way to avoid
              bad posture too.
              
              Still, it’s not for everyone. I use it with my AirPods Max
              comfortably, I have a sturdy neck. I don’t think my wife could
              pull it off.
       
            jasonjmcghee wrote 21 hours 1 min ago:
            Yeah- this and the upcoming steam frame seem like the best options
            today.
            
            There's something very attractive for me personally about the
            sunglasses form factor.
            
            Safer in public, draws less attention, more portable, less headset
            fatigue, etc.
            
            But obviously trading quality and features.
            
            Also AVP is like $3k, steam frame will probably be $800+, xreal are
            like half that
       
              duckruu wrote 19 hours 53 min ago:
              > But obviously trading quality and features.
              
              For me it’s like settling for a CRT after trying a 4k TV in
              terms of visuals, but with the form factors reversed.
       
                jasonjmcghee wrote 16 hours 1 min ago:
                Except the form factors are swapped, but yes.
       
        Raed667 wrote 21 hours 26 min ago:
        I would love this but for detecting when I'm not wearing my glasses!
       
          jagged-chisel wrote 21 hours 21 min ago:
          “If only the world had some way to remind be to wear my glasses …
          like going all blurry or something.”
          
          I get you - but making it absurd is where my brain went immediately.
          >.
       
          dmurray wrote 21 hours 23 min ago:
          Doesn't the screen already go blurry when you're not wearing your
          glasses?
       
            ngruhn wrote 21 hours 2 min ago:
            I think he's joking
       
              Raed667 wrote 20 hours 59 min ago:
              I wish
       
            Raed667 wrote 21 hours 6 min ago:
            It's a spectrum I'm trying to avoid it getting that bad
       
          dhosek wrote 21 hours 23 min ago:
          If I’m not wearing my glasses the screen blurs organically.
       
        eeixlk wrote 21 hours 33 min ago:
        Satire i hope
       
        blauditore wrote 21 hours 34 min ago:
        Does anyone ever reach a high level of productivity with correct
        posture? I can't.
       
          oarfish wrote 17 hours 23 min ago:
          Luckily there is no such thing as "correct posture".
       
          louthy wrote 21 hours 15 min ago:
          Sure, but getting the right environment is a prerequisite. In my case
          it’s a Herman Miller Embody chair [1] that stops me getting into a
          bad position (it’s not impossible, it just encourages good
          posture).
          
 (HTM)    [1]: https://www.hermanmiller.com/en_gb/products/seating/office-c...
       
            apt-apt-apt-apt wrote 18 hours 48 min ago:
            I ditched all my HM chairs for a standard wooden chair. They just
            never felt right (maybe the non-forward-adjustable armrests had
            something to do with it), but boy are they good at selling you an
            expensive fantasy.
       
              refactor_master wrote 10 hours 48 min ago:
              Hell, my bed is on the floor, and my sofa is now also a pillow on
              the floor.
       
                joquarky wrote 9 hours 27 min ago:
                I was the same for decades until I moved somewhere with black
                widows.
       
            cluckindan wrote 20 hours 12 min ago:
            Word of warning: the Embody chair does not have front-to-back
            adjustments for the armrests. They will be pretty useless unless
            you like having your keyboard close to the edge of your desk.
       
            hexbin010 wrote 20 hours 55 min ago:
            The embodiment of overpriced and mediocre
       
            esskay wrote 21 hours 13 min ago:
            Totally a tangent here but it amazes me how a company as big as
            Herman Miller could screw a product page up so much by not even
            having a picture of the damn product.
       
              emptybits wrote 16 hours 56 min ago:
              Lol, I see the image fine but if I click the red "Buy Now"
              button, I get a 404.
              
              Fortunately, I type this, sitting in my wonderful 15 year old
              Embody chair so I don't actually need to buy now. Everyone is
              different and I never raved much about Aerons but the Embody has
              been very good to me, whether my posture is textbook "good" or
              "badly" slouched and reclined ... it supports and makes me want
              to sit and work. :-)
       
              mrbluecoat wrote 18 hours 58 min ago:
              It's there, you just have to slouch to see it.
       
              amelius wrote 19 hours 45 min ago:
              I had the same problem.
       
              StilesCrisis wrote 20 hours 53 min ago:
              It's the first thing on the page. Your browser is doing something
              funky.
       
                esskay wrote 4 hours 55 min ago:
                Was adguard dns. Apparently their asset delivery method is
                flagged on a ton of adblocker lists.
       
              hypeatei wrote 21 hours 8 min ago:
              Something might be wrong with your client (ad-blocker, NoScript
              maybe?) because there a ton of pictures on that page.
       
                esskay wrote 20 hours 59 min ago:
                Ha, yep you're right. How bizarre, wasn't a browser ad block,
                it was adguard dns blocking a ton of tracking scripts needed to
                show the images.
       
          hashmap wrote 21 hours 16 min ago:
          if im not sitting on my right foot with left knee under my chin my
          thinking takes a hit, but i also have to constantly switch how im
          sitting so i dont get annoyed. its hard not to slouch/melt into
          whatever im sitting on and i think the only way to offset all that is
          the gym.
       
        VadimPR wrote 21 hours 35 min ago:
        How can you tell if a short person is slouching? Or a tall person?
       
          gcanyon wrote 21 hours 8 min ago:
          I'm not the author, but I assume it benchmarks the highest height of
          your head, blurs from there, and updates its baseline if you ever
          appear higher.
          
          Meaning that the way to have "perfect posture" is never to sit up
          straight in the first place :-)
       
            lokar wrote 18 hours 18 min ago:
            It has a calibration step
       
          kccqzy wrote 21 hours 22 min ago:
          If you assume a person’s chair height and desk height are both set
          optimally, then I guess the person’s height doesn’t matter for
          this detection.
       
        p0w3n3d wrote 21 hours 38 min ago:
        Great, now I'll get sick eyes too
        
        * laughs histerically
       
        amelius wrote 21 hours 39 min ago:
        Why use a proprietary stack for building this when there is a far more
        capable open ecosystem available at your fingertips? [1]
        
 (HTM)  [1]: https://huggingface.co/models?other=human-pose-estimation
 (HTM)  [2]: https://huggingface.co/models?other=3d-human-mesh-recovery
       
          JCharante wrote 1 hour 16 min ago:
          proprietary stack is probably more battery efficient
       
          kazen44 wrote 21 hours 31 min ago:
          do any more open applications like this exist? The idea seems great
       
        tanelpoder wrote 21 hours 44 min ago:
        Once launched, Posturr runs in the background and displays a brief
        "Claude Mode Active" notification.
        
        I haven’t checked the code yet, but what does the “Claude Mode”
        mean? Is it a poor naming choice? It implies that the local app is
        somehow connected to Claude (?)
       
          tjohnell wrote 21 hours 39 min ago:
          Hi - this is the author. I can explain that, ha!
          
          Right now I'm using a vision library to detect head height which was
          good enough. I went down a tangent where I hooked it up to my Claude
          Code instance to take a screen shot and have Claude Code assess how
          bad my slouch was. Claude would watch a folder for screen shots, read
          it in, and if it detected bad posture, write to a file the program
          was watching to adjust blur.
          
          I did this weird work-around so I could use my Claude Code
          subscription as opposed to the API.
          
          Anyways, it was too slow and Claude was a bad judge of slouchiness.
          Head height works well enough!
          
          I'll clean this up.
       
            tanelpoder wrote 21 hours 21 min ago:
            Cool, thanks for the clarification. Indeed it's a good and
            practical idea for a small app. As other comments have said, (some)
            people might happily pay for this app.
            
            I luckily won't need such feedback loop anymore, had some mild
            lower back pain show up over 10 years ago and bought a chair
            without a backrest that, after 3-4 weeks of struggling, trained me
            to sit up straight. Now I have some random cheap office chair with
            a backrest, but I rarely lean back to it. Funnily, I was going to
            give up using that "backrestless" chair after 2 weeks of
            inconvenience, but decided to give it one more week and then the
            magic happened :-) Mild lower back pain automatically gone.
       
              hn8726 wrote 20 hours 57 min ago:
              Care to share an example of this backrestless chair? Is it like a
              regular chair just without the backrest, or has some other
              differences? Does it have armrests for example, and if not - does
              it bother you?
       
                manuelmoreale wrote 20 hours 44 min ago:
                Not sure which one the parent was referring to but
                personalizing I've been using one of these for more than a
                decade at this point (I'm sitting on it right now) [1] The one
                I have does have a backrest but because of the way it's shaped
                you don't actually use it to slouch. It's more there to support
                when you lean back and want to take a break from typing or
                something like that.
                
 (HTM)          [1]: https://www.varierfurniture.com/en/products
       
                tanelpoder wrote 20 hours 47 min ago:
                I went with an overkill approach at first (as I often do :-)
                and bought some expensive nicely designed "active chair" /
                stool that was adjustable high enough so that I could lean on
                it even when using my desk as a standing desk. It was
                interesting, but not a game changer at all for me. I don't use
                standing desks now at all.
                
                But what I have now is this: [1] Just don't assemble the
                backrest at first. If sitting up straight, I just lean wrists
                on my keyboard wristpad and part of forearms on the desk, no
                armrests needed either.
                
                Edit: I still use my height-adjustable standing desk, but now
                it's value is that I could adjust it for the perfect height for
                my sitting-up-straight position (so no chair armrests needed)
                and it's been fixed at that height for the last 7 years...
                
 (HTM)          [1]: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002FL3LY4
       
          auslegung wrote 21 hours 41 min ago:
          A codebase search for "claude" only has 1 hit in the code (the
          markdown that you referenced) and 4 commits which include the word in
          the commit message, or one commit includes .claude/ in the git
          ignore. See [1] Same with a codebase search for "anthropic"
          
 (HTM)    [1]: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Atldev%2Fposturr+claude&ty...
       
        xfactorial wrote 21 hours 54 min ago:
        I think the idea is wonderful, but a not-audited application that uses
        things like the camera is a “no go” for me.
        
        Get it notorized and ask for some money! I will gladly pay it (and I
        hope others will do it as well).
        
        Awesome concept: ergonomics and/or posture monitoring is a market
        opportunity for heavy users.
       
          tjohnell wrote 17 hours 29 min ago:
          Posturr is now notarized!
       
          alin23 wrote 21 hours 23 min ago:
          Notarization is mostly a glorified malware scan. There's no Apple
          engineer auditing what's being sent for notarization. Even clever
          malware can evade notarization scans and be distributed as a
          notarized binary, it has happened in the past [0]
          
          There's no better way for auditing such an app than having the code
          easily available and looking through it, and compiling it yourself.
          Which is already the case here.
          
          [0]
          
 (HTM)    [1]: https://thehackernews.com/2025/12/new-macsync-macos-stealer-...
       
            burnerthrow008 wrote 21 hours 8 min ago:
            Your link says that Apple revoked the certificate used to sign the
            malware by the time the story was published.
       
              jorams wrote 4 hours 3 min ago:
              After a different company detected it, figured out what it did,
              and reported it to Apple. The app was notarized on November 17,
              screenshots in the researchers' post are from December 16. That's
              a month of fully notarized distribution.
       
          wizzwizz4 wrote 21 hours 42 min ago:
          While I disagree with you, thank you for sharing your decision-making
          process: you're probably not the only one who thinks this way.
          
          In general, would you pay for a notorised build of free software, if
          you had use for that software, even if an un-notorised build or the
          source code were available?
       
            xfactorial wrote 1 hour 28 min ago:
            It depends: having it notarized is a way to show someone with a
            certain reputation of "Hey! This is my code, this is me, if
            something happens, you can kill the switch".
            
            If notarisation requires you some kind of payment, I would be okay
            with you charging me some money, if I obviously find your code has
            a good value for me.
            
            I read comments around here about "Well: you can compile it
            yourself" or "it's open source! You can check the code by
            yourself".
            
            And, while all of those arguments are accurate and valid, the point
            is "I do not feel like it" or, a little reminder, "The Great
            Suspender" was an example of a beautiful open source little app to
            suspend tabs on Google Chrome that, one glorious day, switched
            hands and, suddenly, after some time, someone noticed the
            repository and the code from the add-in were different, and those
            changes were made with nefarious intent.
            
            Luckily, somehow found out, but some people do not have the time or
            the will to be playing that game.
            
            A piece of code that requires access to my camera, regardless of
            size (<1000 lines of code) or build, it's something I just don't
            put on my computer without thinking it twice.
            
            Thank you for the tone: I hope I responded to your question :)
       
            IshKebab wrote 21 hours 16 min ago:
            I seriously doubt that he actually would. And in that unlikely
            event he'd be in a miniscule minority. Not a good open source
            monetisation strategy.
       
              xfactorial wrote 1 hour 36 min ago:
              You may be severely wrong: I like to pay and contribute to things
              I use, believe it or not.
              
              I love to buy small apps from indie developers or donate some
              money to things I use and I love: when I was a student, of
              course, things were different.
              
              Nowadays, luckily, I can contribute and I do it gladly.
       
          tananaev wrote 21 hours 49 min ago:
          Are you serious? It's open source. And there's less than 1000 lines
          total. Get Codex or Claude to review it if you're paranoid.
       
            encom wrote 21 hours 18 min ago:
            Go easy on the guy. Mac users are so used to overpaying for trivial
            functionality.
       
            Alejandro9R wrote 21 hours 20 min ago:
            The thing is that how do you know at the end of the day that the
            compiled binary hasn't been tampered with "extra code" besides
            what's in the repo?
            
            I don't even think notarization gets rid of this problem neither,
            so the best you can do for this is compile it yourself. Maybe I'm
            wrong!
       
              prmoustache wrote 20 hours 12 min ago:
              What prevents you from compiling it if it is open-source?
              
              That's what I do with every project delivered as docker image. I
              rebuild the app and the image.
       
              alexford1987 wrote 21 hours 18 min ago:
              Compiling it yourself is the best/only thing you can do if you
              really want to know what code went into a binary.
       
          xpasky wrote 21 hours 50 min ago:
          It's literally a single .swift file. Ask your LLM to audit it.
       
            micromacrofoot wrote 21 hours 19 min ago:
            then I need to get someone to audit the LLM, which is considerably
            more difficult
       
              JCharante wrote 1 hour 17 min ago:
              ok but who will audit your compiler?
       
              StilesCrisis wrote 21 hours 9 min ago:
              Do you expect this programmer is in cahoots with Anthropic?
       
                saagarjha wrote 20 hours 3 min ago:
                The opposite, actually: that the code tricks the LLM.
       
        publicdebates wrote 21 hours 58 min ago:
        I would pay $10 for this.
       
       
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