Board:   [DoveNet] Religious Discussion/Debate/Evangelism
Subject: Re: Angels and demons
From:    jimmylogan
Date:    Fri May 23, 2025 13:44

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-=> Boraxman wrote to Jcurtis <=-

 Jc> The Bible is prophetic. That means God can see the future. What we have
 Jc> today is powerless against His judgment. Forseen and foretold.

 Bo> How do you reconcile us having free with with God beingable to see
 Bo> into the future?

 Bo> Ive read and heard many interpretations but I'm wondering about yours.
 Bo> If we trulycan change our ways, then the future is not determined
 Bo> until we make our choice, and therefore God cannot know.  If God knows
 Bo> our choice, then we have no
 Bo> choice, and from where come responsibility?

You sound like my son. :-) He calls it the illusion of choice.

Personally, I see it as God is outside of time, space and
matter. Therefore He is the same yesterday, today and
tomorrow.

You and I don't know what will happen tomorrow, nor what
decisions we will make, but He does. Does this meanwe
don't have a choice? Not at all! From our perspective,
we haven't made the choice yet. But from His perspective,
it's already happened.

So if it's 'already happened' how can it change? It can't.
So how can it be a choice? Because TO US it hasn't been
made yet.

Foreknowledge is NOT the say as predestination. If God
DECIDED for us, we would have no choice. But He doesn't
decidefor us, but He does KNOW what we are going to
choose.


.... Does fuzzy logic tickle?
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