Board:   [DoveNet] Religious Discussion/Debate/Evangelism
Subject: Spirituality
From:    Moondog
Date:    Wed Jul 01, 2020 00:00

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  Re: Spirituality
  By: Grasshopper to Moondog on Tue Jun 30 2020 01:00 am

 >   Re: Spirituality
 >   By: Moondog to Grasshopper on Mon Jun 29 2020 09:31 am
 >
 > Hello Moondog,
 >
 >  > Could you please elaborate?  What have you witnessed to support this?  I'
 >  > curious as to how you've reached this conclusion.
 >
 > Let me try to answer you. I was a devout Catholic for many, many years. I li
 > ecame disheartened at what I saw in the majority of the people and yes, some
 > in the gospel. I wanted to shout hypocrites during mass. I saw so many as ju
 > it did seem to be almost all.  The getting angry because someone is driving
 > me, the Priest himself stated he would try to make the mass shorter so every
 > game" really? That is more important than hearing the word of God? I have se
 >
 > I think the message Jesus gave was wonderful and a lot could be learned from
 > it. I just feel people have just watered it down so much that it has been ch
 > that doesn't happen for so many.  It is sad. The beautiful messages are righ
 > few will listen.
 >
 > There is more but that may be more of a novel then. So, goingto church is n
 > a bad thing. Being Catholic is not a bad thing. It is what people do with it
 > I was also of the generation where Priests taught 'fire and brim stone' whic
 > es the world a better place?
 >
 > Hence, for me, it is more about spirituality. I now feel there are many path
 > to God. Not just a single one. It is the "goodness" in oneself that leads on
 > to God. The willingness to help your fellow person. To think of others first
 > his essence. He didn't care about other's religion. He islove. And with lov
 > heart be "bad" because they aren't of another religion. Religion, in my eyes
 > like Jesus had for people. With that, sort of caring, there can be no bad de
 >
 > I don't know if I conveyed the depths of what I am trying to say or why I ma
 >
 > Peace and Love, Love and peace to all.
 >

Thanks for the elaboration.  I was raised Luthern, and may pastor would joke
about the folk who were sinners all week, then saints on Sundays.  That
didn't stop him from trying.

There were also cliques and politics that played behind the scenes regarding
members, as well as those who believed they were holier than everyone else,
yet were the first ones to throw stones and gossip and look down on others.

I can see how for some it may be seen as a required social experience, or
they go through the paces because their peers or someone else they conduct
business with is watching.  Sitting through the sermon related to social and
business connections.

I have an uncle who is a Catholic priest, and hejoked the average Catholic
only went to church for three occasions - for his baptism, his marriage, and
his funeral service.  Ican say the same for some Lutherns.

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