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Subject: Re: telnetvision video to
From:    Arelor
Date:    Tue Nov 10, 2026 11:47

Subject: Re: telnetvision video to ansi
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  Re: Re: telnetvision video to ansi
  By: poindexter FORTRAN to Gamgee on Fri Nov 06 2026 08:30 pm

 >
 >  You would be wrong to assume that. Wanting taxes to go to the common
 >  good is not communism, it's the basis government was founded on. There
 >  needs to be a healthy free market with common-sense regulation
 >  where needed (we've seen what happens in completely unregulated
 >  markets) promotion of innovation in business, easy access to higher and
 >  vocational education and a system to take care of people who need it.

The concept of government was not founded on ideas such as common good or pooling tax money for common interests. Far from it.

Basically every early form of government is a variant of "Me have lotta power, pay tribute or die". Philosophers arguing that the government should be a Republic, Rex Publica, made by the citizens for the citizens, were extremely exceptional, and almost everybody who nowadays believes governments should operate as Rex Publicas would be horrorified as to their bases.

I mean, Athens used to be from citizens by citizens, but requisites for citicenship were far from Universal. In essence it was a combination of plutocrats and militia soldiers pooling their money together and making decisions, and if you didn't belong to the club you either bought your entry ticket or you were a guest with no vote at best.

Even the modern American government didn't try to sugarcoat taxes with propaganda about the common good. I remember reading some of the early mandates and they were very blunt and clear. Stuff like "These tax programs are not optional and we don't promise the money will be invested in your community". Aka "Me lotta power, pay or die".

Nowadays the propaganda is way more advanced so they get people to pay their taxes and they have an excuse for every tax they deploy. When you look into the bottom of it, you pay a tax for every dollar you make, you pay VAT for every dollar you spend, and you probably pay taxes for things you own. A lot of it is sugarcoated but the reality is The System wants to extract as much worth as they can from you and the reasoning they use is just an excuse for the masses who want to believe them.

When my friend got cancer socialized healthcare dumped him.
When my grandfather was dying socialized healthcare dumped him.
When COVID hit, socialized unemployed funds dumped me.
The road my mother drives on in her way to work looks like a war scenario which got bombed.
Yet I am still supposed to be happy paying and I am supposed to believe money is being pooled for the common good.

Not buying it.



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