Board:   [DoveNet] DoveNet General Chat
Subject: Re: Good grief, groceries
From:    John Richards
Date:    Sat Sep 26, 2026 09:25

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-=> DaiTengu wrote to Dreamweaver <=-

 Da>   Re: Re: Good grief, groceries
 Da>   By: Dreamweaver to Daitengu on Fri Sep 25 2026 02:55 pm

 D>>  Like it or not, our politics affect the entire world. Especially when we
 D>> start illegal wars.

 Dr> Illegal wars?!   Thats like saying I'm breathing illegal air.  There's no
 Dr> such thing.  War is war.  There are war crimes for extreme measures of
 Dr> torture and killing, but illegal?  No.


 Da>  Illegal wars like wars that aren't authorized/approved by congress.
 Da> Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution.

 Da> The only president that DIDN'T violate that section of the constitution
 Da> since Nixon was Bush Jr.  He would have, but Congress was fully on
 Da> board after 9/11.

 Article 1 Section 8 just gives the power to declare war to Congress. It does
not establish or disallow the legality of any conflict we are engaged in.

It is given to the President as the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces,
and the Executive Branch to establish and enforce treaties, respond in kind
to any actions (including war) visited upon the United States. He needs no
action from Congress to perform duties given under Article 2, so there has
been no violations of Article 1.

As far as legality. War in itself in any form from any direction is an
abomination on humanity and sanity and severely cripples all involved. It
brings
all progress towards true civlized society back into the dark ages.
It defies and usurps any legal status, and we should all be ashamed
that we have allowed it to happen. And, YES, we allowed it to happen.
We still insist that our differences are more important thananything
and continue to separate ourselves into exclusive groups (countries/
societies) to ensure what stuff is ours can't be taken. It's all just
craziness.



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