Board:   [DoveNet] Firearms
Subject: Re: Ring of Fire/Saturday
From:    Gamgee
Date:    Mon May 25, 2026 09:34

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 Lo>  Re: Re: Ring of Fire/Saturday Nig
 Lo>   By: Weatherman to Weatherman on Mon May 18 2026 09:00:17

 >  > If you want a cheap shooter/beater: The Raven may appeal as a
 >  > budget-friendly range toy. However, due to its cast-zinc components, it
 >  > isnot recommended for daily carry or serious use.

 Lo> I firmly disagree. I think it's perfect as a budget small
 Lo> wildlife/stray animal defense weapon. (See "Velo-dog gun")

 Ga> You may not think that when it blows up in your hand.
 Ga> I mean, a Yugocar will get you down to the store (maybe), but... why?

 We> Because it's what you can afford?

Well, maybe.

 We> I try not to be a gun snob.  I don't judge someone else's choice of
 We> firearms by my standards.  If someone can't afford anything betterthan
 We> a Hi-Point for home defense then I commend them for at least opting to
 We> use SOMETHING rather than to become a victim.

True enough, and my intent was not to come across as a gun snob.  Just
an actual real-world question.

 We> Also, to remember, these Ring of Fire mouse guns were intended to be
 We> pocket pistols for personal defense use at a time when extended range
 We> time spent training was an exception rather than the standard.  I don't

Well, those times are now over.  Hard to justify using something with so
many limitations, at least for me.

 We> carry any of my .25s, not even the 1908 (mainly because the damned
 We> thing is so small and my hands so large that I literally can't close
 We> the grip safety and pull the trigger in a high-stress situation) but
 We> one might say that the Grendel P11 I carry for backup is barely better.

Yet more reasons not touse such a "mouse gun".



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