Board:   [fsxNet] fsxNet Network Discussion
Subject: Re: Hub 3 rate limiting
From:    fusion(21:1/616)
Date:    Thu Mar 26, 2026 09:47

On 26 Mar 2026, The Wanderer said the following...

 TW>  fu> concensus (especially here) does not equate to reality. while i agree
 TW>
 TW> Your perceived reality = the way things are everywhere for all software,
 TW> hardware and network scenarios?

i didn't say that. but the significant majority of them are, in fact, not resource limited in any way with regard to a BBS and all associated functionality.

 TW> Do you hear yourself? You've taken what people have said are actually
 TW> going on and said "Well akshully"

"what people have said" .. who? you? Vorlon? are you two the two man team that dictates reality? what did you say is "going on" ?

 TW> The arguments sound very much like someone who would have no idea how a
 TW> DoS works. Resource starvation is very much a real thing, there are
 TW> absolute limits on all computing platforms new and old, and being
 TW> wasteful exacerbates performance problems and resource starvation.

i'm acutely aware of how they work. my suggestion was that the mitigation proposed isn't any different from letting the user poll every minute. using resources to block vs using resources to just fulfil the request. they're both equivalent at this point. meaningless. some cycles on the cpu. we're taling about using a nuke to kill ants here.

 TW> Working to protect against these kinds of issues well in advance is
 TW> actually a smart thing to do. It has no relevance to your ability to
 TW> watch Yootoob.

there are two groups of connections involved in this conversation:

users connecting *once a minute* to poll - there's a maximum of what, 56 people possible in this group? i take it back, that 486 could probably handle this amount of connections once a minute.

bots that connect over and over non-stop - ban them outright

i didn't have much of an opinion of it originally (my first post wasn't very long either) but now i think i'd personally optimize for allowing that connection per minute user. strive for excellence.

and heaven forbid, don't connect to your sync web interface.. the web browser makes six connections at once. scary! ;)

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