Board:   [fsxNet] fsxNet Network Discussion
Subject: Re: Hub 3 rate limiting
From:    fusion(21:1/616)
Date:    Thu Mar 26, 2026 07:50

On 26 Mar 2026, Vorlon said the following...

 Vo>  fu> concensus (especially here) does not equate to reality. while i agree
 Vo>  fu> this might matter on a 486 running some extremely crusty software, th
 Vo>  fu> majority of people don't fit in that category anymore.
 Vo>
 Vo> Do you really think that *everyone* here is running a BBS on modern
 Vo> hardware and systems?
 Vo> There are plenty of bbs systems that are running on older systems and
 Vo> os's.

yes. almost everyone. does this surprise you? do you want to see screenshots of me blasting the living heck out of my crummy windows 7 laptop to show you what it's capable of?

by the time people had access to multi-core cpus in the early 2000's it was fairly easy to support a thousand users on a single server (usenet server as an example.. the same type of complexity!)

even if i give you a concession.. scale that back to a few hundred (windows & limited ram mostly) .. i think your little core2duo will do just fine..

you know what has a few hundred.. nodes.. ? ;)

 Vo> Polling every minute, means that someone else is missing out.
 Vo> I *have* seen connections get rejected due to not enough slots on the hub
 Vo> system(s).

the concept of a "slot" is *dumb*. simple as that. i also think it's incredibly stupid that modern BBSes have "nodes" still at all. it's a fake artificial concept that doesn't match the underlying system that supports it. you might as well make the node number the user's number from the user database.. it means nothing.

there's no technical reason to set a max number of nodes at all anymore. if you managed to get 40 callers, let them all on. if you need to make doors work, max out the door game's config and assign a fossil port from a pool until they're gone.

 Vo> Here's a hint for you. Not everyone has a huge upload connection to the
 Vo> internet.

this is a reach.. if you're hubbing for a message net i bet you have decent internet. not to mention the median upload speed for the US is like 10mbit, australia is 30-something. and it's getting difficult to get worse internet because it's /mandated by law/ in many places now.

 Vo> So you like abusing sysops systems that are run from there home internet
 Vo> connection and system.
 Vo> So you like abusing the other sysops by being a dick.
 Vo> So you like abusing the freely provided connections from other sysops
 Vo> and being a dick.

don't let your emotions get to you man it's kind of weird. we just don't agree

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