Received: from spf1.us4.outblaze.com (spf1.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.23]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAG2i2ah010220 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 02:44:02 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC0853C32 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 02:44:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CTtSh-00057n-V1 for migo@homemail.com; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:52:55 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CTtSL-00056V-62 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:52:33 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CTtSK-000564-M5 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:52:32 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CTtSK-00055y-Hk for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:52:32 -0500 Received: from [216.254.0.202] (helo=mail2.speakeasy.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CTtJ2-0000OX-09 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:42:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 9811 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2004 02:42:55 -0000 Received: from dsl093-114-095.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO mofo.meme.com) (kop@[66.93.114.95]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Nov 2004 02:42:54 -0000 Received: from mofo.meme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mofo.meme.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61E04365; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:54:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:54:38 -0600 From: "Karl O. Pinc" To: Miles Bader Subject: Re: Tagline tagging failings -- Was: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] tla mv gets me an error next commit Message-ID: <20041115205438.U16278@mofo.meme.com> References: <20041115151313.I8700@mofo.meme.com> <41995266.6060400@arbash-meinel.com> <20041115195312.I16278@mofo.meme.com> <20041115201538.O16278@mofo.meme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from miles@lsi.nec.co.jp on Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 20:18:40 -0600 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.2.4 Cc: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org, "Karl O. Pinc" X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 1727 Lines: 38 On 2004.11.15 20:18 Miles Bader wrote: > tla (unlike, say, bk) _doesn't_ keep track of `tla mv', `tla add', > etc., > operations; making a changeset for commit (etc) is _entirely_ based on > comparing the current state of the source tree with a previous > revision. This is a very winning property of arch. Ok. > As I described in my earlier message, it seems perfectly possible to > do > the job efficiently without any such "keeping records", and desirable > to > do so, as such record-keeping has a number of fairly severe > problems[*]. It's not like I know what I'm talking about here, but I've doubts about your statement. Because if it's _really_ possible to do the job without "keeping records" then there would be no need for explicit tagging _ever_, and arch wouldn't have it. > [*] Doesn't work with taglines, makes many operations more complex (as > they would have to be very careful to update any "change records" > to > reflect changes they made to the tree), etc. I'm not impressed with taglines, for reasons given in a previous email. I'm not asking everybody to give up taglines, I'm asking everybody who uses taglines to give up on fixing the partial commit problem. (At least in the vaporware arch implimentation of my imagination. Which surely has little to do with as I'm an arch newbie.) And if you use explicit tags, you get a fix for partial commits. Karl Free Software: "You don't pay back, you pay forward." -- Robert A. Heinlein _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/