Received: from spf3.us4.outblaze.com (spf3.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.25]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iABEoSfV004073 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:50:28 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf3.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368A753C59 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:50:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CSGPh-00041E-3o for migo@homemail.com; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:59:05 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CSGPF-00040b-3Q for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:58:37 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CSGPE-00040D-BZ for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:58:36 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CSGPE-0003zw-6r for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:58:36 -0500 Received: from [83.216.134.182] (helo=cyclone.suffields.me.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CSGGa-0003AG-EX for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:49:40 -0500 Received: from asuffield by cyclone.suffields.me.uk with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CSGGZ-00030w-00 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:49:39 +0000 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:49:39 +0000 From: Andrew Suffield To: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: darcs vs tla Message-ID: <20041111144939.GA11489@suffields.me.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org References: <20041111142740.GD9786@suffields.me.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0479955261==" Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 2545 Lines: 77 --===============0479955261== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 03:43:14PM +0100, Karel Gardas wrote: > > I am willing to accept as a hypothesis that some languages may be > > faster to write than others, but there is no more than circumstancial > > evidence in both directions. Furthermore without a way to quantify the > > skill of a programmer in a given language, in a manner comparable to > > the skill of a different programmer in a different language, I don't > > think it is possible to have real evidence either way. So you won't > > really get much mileage out of it. >=20 > the simple evidence is whole IT industry, especially focusing on bussiness > oriented systems. Don't you see all these projects slowly migrating from C > to C++, from C++ to Java or even to VisualBasic/Python? > The truth is simple, highler-level languages are more easier to be used, > more quickly to be written than such double-edged knife like C/C++. Please try thinking before sending mail. > > Subjectively, the programmer appears to be the primary factor in > > determining productivity, not the language. >=20 > I'm afraid you are not right. Have you ever tried modern OO-based > languages like Eiffel Okay, slight corrention: it is possible to design a language that significantly *impairs* productivity, to the point where it is the primary factor. --=20 .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBk3wDlpK98RSteX8RAmJhAJwKOYfbvnot8XIQKftig+5O6DY9rACeP4QZ WBcm6+U+psjP8paCU4IiSV0= =Im/D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- --===============0479955261== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ --===============0479955261==--