Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:25:14 +0000
From: Andrew Suffield <asuffield@debian.org>
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Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency
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On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 01:23:41PM -0800, Thomas Lord wrote:
>     > From: Andrew Suffield <asuffield@debian.org>
>=20
>     > > They're not underprepared; they're overprepared.  In fact, they're
>     > > cooked to the point where all the juice has evaporated.  Japanese
>     > > students know how to sit at desks, look at books, and memorize hu=
ge
>     > > amounts of material.  They have huge amounts of information store=
d,
>     > > but no concept of how to wrap that expressive material around ori=
ginal
>     > > thoughts.
>=20
>     > This is the normal perception of graduate students by industries
>     > everywhere. Probably deservedly; most people have no more than a
>     > handful of original thoughts in their entire lives.
>=20
>     > I have never seen any education system which performed appreciably
>     > better at this. As best I can tell, it's normally left to natural
>     > aptitude. I've never seen any evidence that there is a practical way
>     > to teach this sort of thing.
>=20
>=20
> Where did /you/ come from?  Are your gifts and advantages purely
> genetic?  Or did you luck into a circumstance wich might have some
> more "commodifiable" properties?

I can think of no meaningful way to determine that. There's no obvious
answer and no practical way to sample it either.

> Your fetishsizing of "original thoughts" is also problematic.   We've
> known that interesting original thoughts can be systematically and
> reliably cranked out, nearly assembly-line fashion, since Fluxus and
> Eno, at least.

Infinite monkeys do not count :P

Besides, my point stands as stated. Most people *don't*.

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