Received: from spf5.us4.outblaze.com (spf5.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.27]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA91v4dV006392 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 01:57:06 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf5.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F16876F5D for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 01:57:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CRLOB-00076C-3s for migo@homemail.com; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:05:43 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CRLNl-000766-AG for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:05:17 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CRLNk-00075u-Oa for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:05:16 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CRLNk-00075r-LP for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:05:16 -0500 Received: from [150.101.200.66] (helo=gryphon.hezmatt.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CRLFG-0005iq-Mu for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:56:31 -0500 Received: from mpalmer by gryphon.hezmatt.org with local (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1CRLEe-0006TB-00 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:55:52 +1100 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:55:51 +1100 From: Matthew Palmer To: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org Message-ID: <20041109015551.GA24628@hezmatt.org> Mail-Followup-To: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org References: <20041107234609.7bf0abfe@delta.hk.office.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i Subject: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: darcs vs tla X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1379788443==" Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 2272 Lines: 70 --===============1379788443== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 01:31:08AM +0000, Mark Stosberg wrote: > I was reading today how on large software projects, coding can be 15% of > the effort: >=20 > http://www.ifpug.com/Articles/estimating.htm Note, however, that a large part of the Design stuff really needs to be done by someone who has some clue about the target language. Sure, anyone with the necessary general skills can go about working out general algorithms and data structures, but the "how are we going to actually do this" comes down to language choice. Not that that necessarily kills your basic thesis -- t= hat just because you choose a niche language doesn't mean that you'll get no community -- I'm just refuting your statistic that only 15% of a project requires knowledge of the implementation language. Also, that graph isn't meant to be exhaustive, merely illustrative: "It would be important to develop ratios for your own organisation". "can be" usually means "isn't". Having just read through that article, I'm slightly irritated by the fact that most of his numbers appear to be rectally-sourced. I only got past the first graph because I wanted to see where your 15% number came from... - Matt --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBkCOnBEnrTWk1E4cRAjYSAKCUDnc8WPbvGvvfpgw3BQ/aRRkivgCgjNvL Xk44+1ZuTPeMi1uIFTUMzy0= =V+MN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- --===============1379788443== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ --===============1379788443==--