Received: from spf3.us4.outblaze.com (spf3.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.25]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA82R23S021211 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 02:27:02 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf3.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4944753F9B for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 02:27:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CQzNb-0003Ao-Gu for migo@homemail.com; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:35:39 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CQzN6-00039J-0i for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:35:08 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CQzN3-00038v-Lt for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:35:06 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CQzN3-00038g-DI for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:35:05 -0500 Received: from [83.216.134.182] (helo=cyclone.suffields.me.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CQzEL-0004Ox-77 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:26:05 -0500 Received: from asuffield by cyclone.suffields.me.uk with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CQzEI-0006fD-00 for ; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 02:26:02 +0000 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 02:26:02 +0000 From: Andrew Suffield To: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit Message-ID: <20041108022602.GA25501@suffields.me.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org References: <4186917E.3030209@melon.dk> <20041101232959.GA25080@hezmatt.org> <87ekjcswdn.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <418765A9.2040206@diku.dk> <878y9kpfcm.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200411022006.iA2K6Q1n036262@xl2.seyza.com> <87y8hinbq1.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200411041938.iA4Jc4UX055425@xl2.seyza.com> <87lldfe8la.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1099864111.28980.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1099864111.28980.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0505259811==" Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 2233 Lines: 69 --===============0505259811== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 08:48:31AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > In the case in point, if you believe that what "such execs" are doing > > is harmful and immoral, you should become an entrepreneur and acquire > > the resources needed to do something about it. That's what rms did; > > that's why rms is justly considered a great man. If you don't, well, > > then you share the moral responsibility for the debacle you predict. >=20 > So Tom is not being an entrepreneur in his development, in his work > building arch/tla, in establishing this community, in maxing out all his > credit lines, in living on the edge, in persevering for month after > month, in short, putting his actions where his principles lie? Given that he has not accomplished whatever it is (I've lost track) that he is complaining has not happened? No, by definition. Effort does not transport from one goal to another. Working towards some of your goals does not excuse you from having to work towards the others. --=20 .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBjtk6lpK98RSteX8RAveeAKCB3XKTAmuQ2Jw1L35JWW+AEdwUzwCffsLD wjYN87nnD3fRg4nzgMs/qAg= =EgZO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- --===============0505259811== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ --===============0505259811==--