Received: from spf5.us4.outblaze.com (spf5.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.27]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA4K1QUU020595 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 20:01:27 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf5.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695DE77863 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 19:52:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPnnO-0004A5-S0 for migo@homemail.com; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:01:22 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPnn0-00046Y-Iw for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:00:58 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPnn0-00045v-2w for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:00:58 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPnn0-00045q-1J for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:00:58 -0500 Received: from [205.149.2.136] (helo=xl2.seyza.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CPneR-0005OB-LC for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:52:09 -0500 Received: from xl2.seyza.com (localhost.seyza.com [127.0.0.1]) by xl2.seyza.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA4Ju6Ib055480; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:56:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lord@xl2.seyza.com) Received: (from lord@localhost) by xl2.seyza.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iA4Ju6T2055477; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:56:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lord) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:56:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200411041956.iA4Ju6T2055477@xl2.seyza.com> From: Thomas Lord To: zen@cashpoolcomps.com In-reply-to: <1099516340.10774.153.camel@localhost.localdomain> (message from Zenaan Harkness on Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:12:20 +1100) Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency References: <200411010336.iA13af6p023128@xl2.seyza.com> <20041101141701.GB9161@puritan.pcp.ath.cx> <87wtx51w70.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> <20041101144826.GD9161@puritan.pcp.ath.cx> <41867B20.1020608@melon.dk> <2982EA60-2C38-11D9-8C6F-000393CFE6B8@spy.net> <4186917E.3030209@melon.dk> <20041101232959.GA25080@hezmatt.org> <87ekjcswdn.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <418765A9.2040206@diku.dk> <878y9kpfcm.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <200411022006.iA2K6Q1n036262@xl2.seyza.com> <1099430686.10774.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <87actzvpnb.fsf@cenderis.demon.co.uk> <1099438163.10774.72.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1099448957.10774.118.camel@localhost.localdomain> <87u0s6n8da.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1099516340.10774.153.camel@localhost.localdomain> Cc: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 1089 Lines: 33 > From: Zenaan Harkness > Quote from that page: "Perhaps the greatest of school's illusions is > that the institution was launched by a group of kindly men and women who > wanted to help the children of ordinary families—to level the playing > field, so to speak." What's the a priori argument against public schools rather than the historic one? While historically, public schools may (or may not) have an ugly origin, /some/ today have certainly evolved into great institutions. Intuitively, public education has a lot of appeal for me: partly because the idea of a coherent "public space" has a lot of appeal and schools seem like a place to manufacture that; partly because public schools are (potentially!) very economically efficient. So, is there something /inherent/ in public schooling that makes it evil? -t _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/