Received: from spf3.us4.outblaze.com (spf3.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.25]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA40aBFM015973 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 00:36:11 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf3.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD35853DC2 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2004 00:32:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPVgS-0004Dd-E1 for migo@homemail.com; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:41:00 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPVg6-0004DA-Q0 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:40:38 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPVg5-0004Ch-Ne for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:40:38 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPVg5-0004Cc-KQ for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:40:37 -0500 Received: from [68.142.225.164] (helo=web54408.mail.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CPVXv-0006k4-0A for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:32:11 -0500 Message-ID: <20041104003210.33648.qmail@web54408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.168.172.247] by web54408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:32:09 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 00:32:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Frank Pohlmann Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] OT: trained dependency To: Zenaan Harkness , arch In-Reply-To: <1099527511.10774.185.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 2013 Lines: 66 I am reading Gatto. Interesting and certainly provocative, but it would take a few years to substantiate his findings. Nevertheless, I would not agree that even the free population of the US pre-1850 was terribly educated. I think the point he is making is rather different. he means to say that most of us are capable of DOING things at a far earlier age than we generally admit. "When I was a schoolboy in Monongahela, I learned with a shock that the men who won our Revolution were barely out of high school by the standards of my time: Hamilton was twenty in the retreat from New York; Burr, twenty-one; Light Horse Harry Lee, twenty-one; Lafayette, nineteen. What amounted to a college class rose up and struck down the British empire, afterwards helping to write the most sophisticated governing documents in modern history." How true. Similarly, the French revolution was led by fairly young men and its generals were ridiculously young. Li Hung-Chang, the leader of the Taiping revolt in China was in his twenties and not exactly an educated man when he almost brought down the Qing dynasty. His most important general was an illiterate genius. But: does all this apply to the majority of us? -Frank --- Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Deschooling society > > > http://www.preservenet.com/theory/Illich/Deschooling/intro.html > > Thank you. Very much. > Zen > > > _______________________________________________ > Gnu-arch-users mailing list > Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users > > GNU arch home page: > http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/