Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: community spirit
From: Mike Partin <djmike@ocgnet.org>
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Apologies, I meant this to go to the list.
> 
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 12:06, Jacob Gorm Hansen wrote:
> I don't think having n wrappers in people's favorite scripting languages 
> makes much sense. I would like one binary that I can easily install on 
> any kind of system, without being root, and without having to install 
> tons* of library-files as well.
> 
> I also think the use of wrappers will fragment the community, it is 
> already quite common to have a newbie user ask something like:
> 
Kind of like the choice of window managers or editors? Come on man, this
argument smacks of the Microsoft Mentality(tm). It's the abundance of
choice that makes the open source community what it is. "I don't like
the tool you use, but this one works great for me." It's all about
choice.

> -- which is useless unless one chooses to install fancywrapper, with 
> it's 1000+ files of dependencies.
> 
I'm not sure which tool you're even referring to at this point, other
than the stuff from canonical and that's only because they use the tla
source tree as far as I'm aware. If I'm missing something I would love
for you to give me some examples.

> *) For instance, on my workstation:
> 
> cd /usr/lib/python2.3
> find -type f | wc -l
> 
> yields 1312 files.
> 
What's your point? 99% of that is likely the standard library, which has
nothing to do with tla or wrappers. That's like going into /usr/include
and running 'find -type f | wc -l' and saying "Oh gee look at all the
stuff tla installs, I don't like that".

-Mike "Fuzzy" Partin


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