Received: from fallback.us4.outblaze.com (fallback.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.120]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA1FQD9I024365 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:26:13 GMT Received: from cspf.us4.outblaze.com (cspf.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.117]) by fallback.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9802F1C0DFAC for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:50:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spf5.us4.outblaze.com (spf5.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.27]) by cspf.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278771B41FD for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:49:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf5.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0A576EA3 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:49:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1COdcS-00046R-Q9 for migo@homemail.com; Mon, 01 Nov 2004 09:57:16 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1COdc6-00046C-LY for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2004 09:56:54 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1COdc6-000460-7E for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2004 09:56:54 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1COdc6-00045x-4m for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2004 09:56:54 -0500 Received: from [195.54.107.73] (helo=mxfep02.bredband.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1COdTv-00037g-E5 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2004 09:48:27 -0500 Received: from puritan.pcp.ath.cx ([213.112.43.197] [213.112.43.197]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20041101144826.KHCS44.mxfep02.bredband.com@puritan.pcp.ath.cx> for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:48:26 +0100 Received: by puritan.pcp.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0E3FBAE041; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:48:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:48:26 +0100 From: Nikolai Weibull To: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org Message-ID: <20041101144826.GD9161@puritan.pcp.ath.cx> References: <200411010336.iA13af6p023128@xl2.seyza.com> <20041101141701.GB9161@puritan.pcp.ath.cx> <87wtx51w70.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87wtx51w70.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: community spirit X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 1684 Lines: 39 * Samuel Tardieu [Nov 01, 2004 15:40]: > > I'm sure their intentions are good, yet one has to wonder > > exactly why they wish to solve their issues with the current > > interface to Arch in this manner. nikolai > Several aspects of the current tla codebase are questionable, e.g: > - the use of hackerlib instead of libc because Tom considers libc as > broken > - the option handling is far from well factored, per design decision > - no abbreviations are allowed, per design decision > - the use of a low-level language like C instead of higher level > languages allowing much faster experiments > - the use of pika-escaped filenames in tla output Yes, but all these choices are irrelevant if you simply write a wrapper around tla as it stands now. There's really no need for a code fork to deal with these aspects. I mean, sure pika-escaping may be annoying, but if you write a wrapper, you can easily convert them (that's kind of the point after all). Still, the bottom line seems to be that tla should be factored into support libraries and a default interface so that people can more easily do whatever they want with the code/protocol. nikolai -- ::: name: Nikolai Weibull :: aliases: pcp / lone-star / aka ::: ::: born: Chicago, IL USA :: loc atm: Gothenburg, Sweden ::: ::: page: www.pcppopper.org :: fun atm: gf,lps,ruby,lisp,war3 ::: main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);} _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/