Received: from spf3.us4.outblaze.com (spf3.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.25]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9T6ekPN020766 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:40:46 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf3.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97B45384B for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:40:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CNQZ7-0002f1-1X for migo@homemail.com; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:48:49 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CNQYm-0002ev-5D for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:48:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CNQYl-0002ee-Jv for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:48:27 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CNQYl-0002eU-HG for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:48:27 -0400 Received: from [207.166.200.220] (helo=hera.museatech.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CNQQI-00064z-Bi for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:39:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 4092 invoked by uid 110); 29 Oct 2004 06:39:40 -0000 Received: from talli@seyza.com by hera by uid 102 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.60. spamassassin: 2.60. Clear:RC:1(68.164.206.163):. Processed in 0.175768 secs); 29 Oct 2004 06:39:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (68.164.206.163) by hera.museatech.net with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 06:39:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4181E5AA.5000700@seyza.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 02:39:38 -0400 From: Talli Somekh Organization: Seyza User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Macintosh/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: File naming conventions References: <20041019060152.GC18852@wisq.net> <1098311382.11967.35.camel@nemesis.xlii.org> <1098313564.5336.29.camel@whiskas.cashpoolcomps.com> <1098319598.5336.46.camel@whiskas.cashpoolcomps.com> <20041021123218.GA30989@fencepost> <1098398014.5336.118.camel@whiskas.cashpoolcomps.com> <200410252034.i9PKYK4b066494@xl2.seyza.com> <20041025225439.GB19336@fencepost> <200410272159.i9RLxInD074896@xl2.seyza.com> <874qkf3r0f.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1099007564.26442.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <871xfi2gck.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <871xfi2gck.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: arch , Zenaan Harkness X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: talli@seyza.com List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 1373 Lines: 33 > Walter Landry is a counterexample. James Blackwell is a > counterexample. Both highly committed, both fired because Tom didn't > trust them to do things the way Tom would do them, with high enough > accuracy. That's what Tom says (as I understand him, although he uses > different words with a somewhat different slant), and that's the way I > read the public record, too. I will call bullshit here. Public record - and my public and personal IRC logs - say that Tom argued that there were bugs in the 1.2.x process but that they should be expected and that in fact considering all the moving parts involved things came out not so bad. None of the parties distinguished themselves when things melted down, that's certainly true. But monday morning quarterbacking like this is pretty bad, Stephen. Let both of those sagas die, please, and let's move on. The way I read the situation, we've got two solutions now - the Bazzaar code and tla 1.3 series. People can choose which implementation they prefer in addition to these sub projects of GNU arch cross polinating one another. Can we please stop navel gazing so much around here? talli _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/