Received: from spf5.us4.outblaze.com (spf5.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.27]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9SNombc028005 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:50:48 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf5.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6840576F85 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:50:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CNKAR-00005Z-Ju for migo@homemail.com; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:58:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CNKA9-00005T-09 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:58:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CNKA8-00005D-EK for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:58:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CNKA8-000053-Bc for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:58:36 -0400 Received: from [144.140.71.20] (helo=gizmo10ps.bigpond.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CNK2E-0005Kc-KF for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:50:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 23803 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2004 23:50:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO psmam12.bigpond.com) (144.135.25.103) by gizmo10ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2004 23:50:24 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-132-211-224.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.132.211.224]) by psmam12.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2a 234/114756145) with SMTP id 114756145; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:50:24 +1000 Received: by poolcompsonline.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8A54B788A1; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:52:44 +1000 Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: File naming conventions From: Zenaan Harkness To: arch In-Reply-To: <874qkf3r0f.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20041019060152.GC18852@wisq.net> <1098311382.11967.35.camel@nemesis.xlii.org> <1098313564.5336.29.camel@whiskas.cashpoolcomps.com> <1098319598.5336.46.camel@whiskas.cashpoolcomps.com> <20041021123218.GA30989@fencepost> <1098398014.5336.118.camel@whiskas.cashpoolcomps.com> <200410252034.i9PKYK4b066494@xl2.seyza.com> <20041025225439.GB19336@fencepost> <200410272159.i9RLxInD074896@xl2.seyza.com> <874qkf3r0f.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1099007564.26442.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:52:44 +1000 X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by sdf.lonestar.org id i9SNombc028005 Status: RO Content-Length: 1991 Lines: 46 On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 23:34, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Lord writes: > > Thomas> The best way I can think of, right now, to make the job of > Thomas> our singular reviewer/integrator (Matthew) easier is to > Thomas> ask contributors to be very strict and formal about the > Thomas> format and management of their submissions. > > It's a rather different situation, but Martin van Löwis of Python > recently reiterated his offer to review, and if appropriate commit, > any patch being "pushed" by a developer who reviews ten (10) patches > to a certain standard. (Note that "review" means two different things > here: Martin's review is part of the integration process; the > "pusher's" review is simply a report that Martin or another Python > integrator might find useful.) This is merely formalising what happens anyway - this is the community way (build up of trust). It's arguable whether formalising the process of elevation from "mere random submitter/ user" to "official patch pusher/ lieutenant" is beneficial or not: For example, as integrator/ project lead, Tom would either limit his ability to knock back bad patches from people if he promised that after 10 approved patches, he'd always pull them, or alternatively might be way too stringent due to fear of losing the ability to reject. Why go through all that? People who are committed will engender trust naturally. And good project leads are good at working with people to (explain why patches are no good | recommend changes | constructively encourage | confer privileges to those who earn them). I'm not arguing outright that a formalism is inappropriate, just that I would personally view it as possibly problematic in ways... cheers zen _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/