Received: from spf5.us4.outblaze.com (spf5.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.27]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9Q474XB021236 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:07:07 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf5.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0445B76F4B for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:07:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CMIgU-0005ID-Mv for migo@homemail.com; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:11:46 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CMIg8-0005Hv-2B for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:11:24 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CMIg7-0005HW-A0 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:11:23 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CMIg7-0005HT-3K for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:11:23 -0400 Received: from [130.158.98.109] (helo=tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CMIXq-0007Fh-CT for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:02:50 -0400 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CMIXn-0004dU-00 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:02:47 +0900 To: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] GNU copyright assignment References: <87vfd5xhe0.fsf@flame.org> <20041020214600.GA624@merconline.com> <1098313404.5336.26.camel@whiskas.cashpoolcomps.com> <87brewc8fr.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <200410252004.i9PK4Pw8066415@xl2.seyza.com> <20041026000504.C2FA6B7E50@comet.merconline.com> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:02:46 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20041026000504.C2FA6B7E50@comet.merconline.com> (James Blackwell's message of "Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:05:04 -0400") Message-ID: <877jpew2hl.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.5 (chayote, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 1979 Lines: 47 >>>>> "James" == James Blackwell writes: James> But that other 15%... What are you going to do with it? James> Sure, you'll be able to get plenty of people to sign legal James> copyright transfer forms (at least if you pay for the James> shipping). Many projects have made this transition. I don't see why Tom won't do what such maintainers normally do: 1. He asks for assignments. If he doesn't get them, 2. He asks for volunteers to reimplement. If he doesn't get them, 3. He asks himself to reimplement. If he refuses, 4. He pulls the code out. There's an alternative to (2) for contributions that are big enough, which is to negotiate an alternative deal. That presumably would be done by the FSF. I don't understand why you're worrying about this issue. (Well, I guess in step 3 Tom is talking to himself, so that's a little worrying. :-) Tom rewrote the whole larch deal in C in a period of a couple months; he can compute the downside of the assignment policy, he's said "it's minor"---so why don't you just take him at his word? The code will remain GPL and available to all throughout this process; it's not like the FSF will issue an SCO-style "pay-royalties-or- destroy-all-copies" demand. I have my issues with assignment to the FSF, as you might guess, but if Tom wants to do it, it's clearly the right thing to do (though it is 99% political and 1% "professionalism" IMO), and it will work out fine. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/