Received: from spf5.us4.outblaze.com (spf5.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.27]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9KNGh04019586 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:16:43 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf5.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E94A76E5A for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:16:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CKPoe-000575-5L for migo@homemail.com; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:24:24 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CKPkY-0003VG-Km for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:20:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CKPkU-0003Sq-5e for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:20:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CKPkT-0003SV-Bk for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:20:05 -0400 Received: from [128.255.17.57] (helo=server17.icaen.uiowa.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CKPcm-0000bu-3D for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:12:08 -0400 Received: from server11.icaen.uiowa.edu (server11.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.51]) by server17.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i9KNC6cr020350; (envelope-from ) Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:12:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (12-217-241-0.client.mchsi.com [12.217.241.0]) by server11.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.12.9/smtp-service-1.6) with ESMTP id i9KNC4fU029165; (envelope-from ) Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:12:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4176F0C4.8060702@johnmeinel.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:12:04 -0500 From: John Meinel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zenaan Harkness Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] GNU copyright assignment References: <87vfd5xhe0.fsf@flame.org> <20041020214600.GA624@merconline.com> <1098313404.5336.26.camel@whiskas.cashpoolcomps.com> In-Reply-To: <1098313404.5336.26.camel@whiskas.cashpoolcomps.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.66n X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75 on clamav.icaen.uiowa.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: arch X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1543086554==" Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 2793 Lines: 77 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1543086554== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig89C3C07B28B2D6D874E7301E" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig89C3C07B28B2D6D874E7301E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>Speaking of which, how far along is the process of getting everybody with >>copyright in arch to assign copyright to the FSF? Also, what's going to >>happen to code that isn't handed over? > > > I assume that would be "whatever you decide" - how could it > be anything else. It almost sounds like you're assuming that > people will be "encouraging" you to do otherwise than you > would choose of your own free will. > I think part of what he's mentioning is code that was contributed a while ago, by someone who we may not be able to contact. FSF requires everything to be signed over to them, so that they have the legal right to defend it in court. The official ruling is that code that is not signed over cannot be incorporated. This may mean that code has to be pulled out of something like jblack's integration branch if he wants to get it into mainline. For me the big concern is who is going to audit everything, and as jblack asks, what do we do when chunks have to be pulled out? Not to say that I don't agree with some of the rest of what you say. jblack does have a slight rebellious streak in him. But there is a general concern here. If code is GPL, it's not very difficult to assign copyright to FSF, they *could* decide to do bad things with it, but I think people generally trust them. (They could re-release code with a BSD license, for instance, since they own the copyright). John =:-> --------------enig89C3C07B28B2D6D874E7301E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Cygwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBdvDEJdeBCYSNAAMRApHvAKDEzrZlghoT0kIsfBMEvHeatGN8HwCfcpFm Z+geZNOywxpJfwSFbw35jTQ= =cXT2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig89C3C07B28B2D6D874E7301E-- --===============1543086554== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ --===============1543086554==--