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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:19:11 -0500
From: John Meinel <tla@johnmeinel.com>
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To: Dustin Sallings <dustin@spy.net>
Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: File naming conventions
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Dustin Sallings wrote:
> 
> On Oct 18, 2004, at 16:35, Miles Bader wrote:

[...]

>     In fact, my complaint seems to be the opposite of what you're' 
> saying.  I have no problem typing {arch}, I have a problem avoiding it.
> 
>     For example, where I would before type the following:
> 
>     ctags -R *
> 
>     I now get to type something like this:
> 
>     ctags `tla inventory -s`
> 
>     Except...oops:
> 
>     desktop:~/prog/p4gw/cms 3011> ctags `tla inventory -s`
>     /usr/local/bin/ctags: Argument list too long.
> 

[...]

How do you handle this for CVS? Or is it just that ctags knows about CVS 
directories and ignores them?

I was thinking about what was said that find * -name ... | xargs gets 
replaced by tla inventory.

But find * also has problems with CVS/SVN, etc. In fact, if you run it 
in any directory below you will still go into hidden directories.

I always work around it with:

find . ! -path "*{arch}*" -name .... | xargs

But I also tend to work in trees with many nested projects, so I don't 
have just one top-level directory.

Heck I just looked in the man page and I think:

ctags -R . --exclude="*{arch}*"
actually this also works, but if you have a strange hierarchy it might fail:

ctags -R . --exclude="*arch*"

This one does have the advantage of ignoring .arch-inventory and 
.arch-ids as well, though probably ctags wouldn't understand those files 
and ignores them anyway.

I think most tools that you want to use already will have ways of 
avoiding directories (SVN and CVS put one in *every* directory, so you 
can't just get away with avoiding them in this directory.)

Now that all that is said, I personally don't care whether it is .arch, 
or {arch}. I know when I first started I thought .arch would have been 
better. But now, I don't really care. I think {arch} stands out nicely 
when browsing. In Windows the .files aren't hidden anyway so there isn't 
much of a benefit there.

I *really* like the ",blah" to mean this is a temporary file, and have 
started using it very frequently. I never use the + or =, though. I'm 
not really sure what is what (I think + is precious, ie not source, but 
I'm at a loss for =)

John
=:->

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