Received: from spf5.us4.outblaze.com (spf5.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.27]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBDBNaVI028420 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:23:37 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf5.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF32976E6D for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:23:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CdoSw-00018J-RU for migo@homemail.com; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:34:10 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CdoPY-0000Jw-59 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:30:40 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CdoMp-0007x0-JI for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:27:52 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CdoJK-000727-Nx for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:24:14 -0500 Received: from [130.158.98.109] (helo=tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CdnT7-0004pg-93 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 05:30:17 -0500 Received: from steve by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CdnSy-0001cK-QB for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:30:08 +0900 To: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: release goals for Bazaar 1.1 References: <1102095916.6942.43.camel@localhost> <20041211154916.GA1832@ukato> <20041211183809.GC3388@wisq.net> Organization: The XEmacs Project From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:30:08 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20041211183809.GC3388@wisq.net> (Adrian Irving-Beer's message of "Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:38:09 -0500") Message-ID: <873byasd73.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.5 (chayote, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 1737 Lines: 39 >>>>> "Adrian" == Adrian Irving-Beer writes: Adrian> Heh, agreed. It skips one step ahead in one possible Adrian> chain of action, i.e. bug found -> annotate -> fix it -> Adrian> blame someone (sometimes with the latter two reversed). Adrian> Frankly, that course of action suggests a pretty Adrian> dysfunctional and unproductive project crew to me. What should happen is that you turn down the arrogance and politely ask the person who checked in the change "what were you thinking? I don't understand it, and it looks to me like it's this cause of *this* reported misbehavior." All too often, people charge ahead and check in a fix that fails in a different and even more obscure way, often without cc'ing the person who wrote the original code. Adrian> Subversion probably meant it to be cute. I find it Adrian> annoyingly cheeky. That may be. "Annotate" doesn't say at all what the command does, though, except in a very generic way. I'm probably just mentally blocked, but at the moment I can't come up with an idiom that has the same semantics as "blame" without the connotations: "finger", "arrest", "accuse", ... ah, got it: "credit", or "colophon" ;-). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/