Received: from spf3.us4.outblaze.com (spf3.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.25]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAIMUZFi001874 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:30:35 GMT Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by spf3.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387825391B for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:30:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUuwL-0003bZ-Mv for migo@homemail.com; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:39:45 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUuv7-0003Bx-2t for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:38:29 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUuv4-0003Ai-H7 for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:38:26 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUuv4-0003AP-Bc for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:38:26 -0500 Received: from [129.255.60.186] (helo=ct.radiology.uiowa.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CUum4-0005sq-Eu for gnu-arch-users@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:29:08 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.11] (12-217-241-0.client.mchsi.com [12.217.241.0]) by ct.radiology.uiowa.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iAIMT7331131; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:29:07 -0600 Message-ID: <419D222B.6080600@arbash-meinel.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:28:59 -0600 From: John A Meinel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zenaan Harkness Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: darcs vs tla References: <20041116213258.GA16695@suffields.me.uk> <419A7430.8050300@mdl.com> <77F65340-381A-11D9-A1EA-000A959B67D6@seyza.com> <419ABADB.5020506@arbash-meinel.com> <419B7885.9030903@arbash-meinel.com> <419B8347.3060401@arbash-meinel.com> <419B9909.3030504@arbash-meinel.com> <2CE15774-39A8-11D9-8075-000393CFE6B8@spy.net> <1100816475.3025.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1100816475.3025.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Cc: arch X-BeenThere: gnu-arch-users@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: a discussion list for all things arch-ish List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1625992196==" Sender: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Errors-To: gnu-arch-users-bounces+migo=homemail.com@gnu.org Status: RO Content-Length: 3095 Lines: 95 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1625992196== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5D22496396E9DD2CED0F2752" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5D22496396E9DD2CED0F2752 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > This is something I strongly believe to be worthwhile from a users point > of view - where it makes sense of course, have only one way to do thing. > Only have multiple mechanisms when you _need_ them. > > I personally prefer a unix-like command subspace, as in tla mv, tla ln, > tla cp, etc. Having to remember which operations are "tla" commands and > which are plain unix is unnecessary thought-overhead, in my opinion! > > cheers > zen > This is where I semi-disagree. I'm fine with having a set of commands (tla cp, tla mv, tla...) which always work. And that will support people who want the "completely consistent" view. But if I know what's going on, and don't like having to type 4 extra characters each time, or I want to use say Nautilus (or windows explorer). It would be nice if it would do what I want. Also, tla mv,rm et al *won't* work in a darcs repository, or a bitkeeper repository, or a svn one. So then you have to remember where you are again, and what command does what you want. If they all used taglines (again a pipe dream, I know) then they all could use just plain mv, and they all wouldn't need to re-invent the wheel all the time. And for the case where you can't have a tagline you have tla mv-id (and no tla mv) which will move a file id that has become dis-associated. And then on commit or tree-lint you get a nicer error message: The file associated with id blah.c.id cannot be found. Did you move or delete the file [m/d]? m Supply the new filename: blahblah.c Renamed blah.c.id -> blahblah.c.id The file associated with id bliss.id cannot be found. Did you move or delete the file [m/d]? d Are you sure [y/N]? y Deleted bliss.id. John =:-> --------------enig5D22496396E9DD2CED0F2752 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Cygwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBnSIrJdeBCYSNAAMRAilaAJ9c9Sw6usBDvpJGCA8BtOzJ6wNnNgCfSQ93 j6mcP8G2bIU/OZqMVAcmvV4= =PBaF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5D22496396E9DD2CED0F2752-- --===============1625992196== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Gnu-arch-users mailing list Gnu-arch-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-arch-users GNU arch home page: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnu-arch/ --===============1625992196==--