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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:59:16 -0600
From: John A Meinel <john@arbash-meinel.com>
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To: Adrian Irving-Beer <wisq-archlist@wisq.net>
Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: darcs vs tla
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Adrian Irving-Beer wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 03:02:57PM -0600, John A Meinel wrote:
> 
> 
>>hackerlab creates a temporary executable to generate an output file
>>and then deletes it. But on cygwin/windows the file ends with a
>>.exe, so rm cannot find it to delete it.
> 
> 
> I know there is no 'gcc contract', but doesn't saying 'ld -o foo' or
> 'gcc -o foo' and getting foo.exe (a) violate the expectation of using
> -o, and (b) break almost every other Makefile out there?
> 
> Not saying it's not a problem.  Just confuses me why Cygwin would do
> this.  As I recall, all their system executables end in .exe too,
> although you call them without like in Unix.
> 
> Does Windows literally only run files with a .exe extension?  I haven't
> used Cygwin or Windows in years.

Windows will only run files with a .exe, .com, .bat, maybe a couple 
more. Windows determines what is executable from the extension (it has 
no X bit)

cygwin works around this by pretending when you say
   ls
That you really meant
   ls.exe

A lot of makefiles I've seen have this workaround

EXE=
ifeq($OS,Windows_NT)
   EXE=.exe
endif

myprog$(EXE) : <dependencies>

You can also get make to work by supplying

   rm ,es$(EXE) <other stuff>

or using
   -rm ,es <other stuff>

which won't actually remove ,es.exe

I think most tools convert the filename to exe as needed. For instance:

$ ls /bin/ls
/bin/ls
$ ls /bin/ls*
/bin/ls.exe

Notice that there does not exist a file named "/bin/ls" it is actually 
/bin/ls.exe

I'm guessing that rm is an exception because they didn't want to remove 
something you didn't exactly say (since you are deleting). Playing nice 
with ls, find, etc is all good, but secretly deleting something would be 
bad.

John
=:->

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