From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #702 Dead-Flames Digest #702, Volume #48 Fri, 28 Oct 05 13:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Rove gets pass???? (leftie) Re: Anybody get Creamed @ the Garden last nite? (Spider Dawg) Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted ("Neil X.") Re: Rove gets pass???? (kpnnews@yahoo.com) Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted (Ken Fortenberry) Re: I am thinking of driving up to Vermont today. (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: Rove gets pass???? (JC Martin) Re: Rove gets pass???? (JC Martin) Re: Anybody get Creamed @ the Garden last nite? (kpnnews@yahoo.com) Re: cream bt ("Eli Renfro") Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted (Ken Fortenberry) Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted (JC Martin) Re: FUJI CD_R and DVD ALERT! ("Neil X.") Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted (JC Martin) Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted (Ken Fortenberry) Re: Anybody get Creamed @ the Garden last nite? (Spider Dawg) Re: what should the United States do with combatants who don't belong to regular armies? (flat9) Re: Is Steve Kimock really this bad? (The Lord of Eltingville) now hear DIS ("Peat her Rabbit") Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted ("DevsVult") Re: garcia's attorney ("s. craw") Re: Is Steve Kimock really this bad? (naught@nil.com) Re: New England Skiers!!!! ("Dave Kelly") Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted ("Deke_Rivers") Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: List of those to lie in honor at Capitol Rotunda ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") gimme gimme some a ("Roxanne McDaniel") Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? ("Roxanne McDaniel") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: leftie Subject: Re: Rove gets pass???? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:59:46 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > leftie wrote: > >> kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: >> >>> Scooter is but a pawn in how policy is implimented >>> today; >> >> Horseshit. Scooter nhelps design and implement policy. He's Cheney's >> Cheney, the VP's own personal Rove. > > I actually have to agree. That's twice in one month we agree. Something seems amiss in the universe. ;-) ------------------------------ From: Spider Dawg Subject: Re: Anybody get Creamed @ the Garden last nite? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:59:57 -0500 On 2005-10-25, ba ba booie wrote: > Anybody get Creamed @ the Garden last nite? > > > Just wondering if any reviews are out from last nites show. Anyone here > go? Good, bad, ugly? > > > booie....... I've just gotten home from Wednesday night's show, too fatigued to go into much detail right now but I can say I had one of the best, if not *the* best times of my life. I'm not just talking about the show but NYC in general. The show was awesome, even though I knew what song was coming up next except for the surprise of TOBU (I hadn't read any reviews). To my ears they sound great together, more my cup o' tea than any of them on their own. They sound great, and they and everyone around me seemed to be having a wonderful time. I know I was, but I realize that much of that was from plain ole giddiness from *finally* getting to see these guys jam together. For events to see while in NYC, it doesn't get much better than this for me anymore. And I also owe a *huge* "Thank You" to everyone who posted NYC advise for me. In addition to Liberty Island, Times Square (against the advise to avoid it, sorry), Empire State Building, and a few other places, I also got to experience: Ray's Pizza (6th Ave & 17th St, BTW). Delicious, something different about the crust I can't quite explain, but from what I've read in "best pizza" threads here I'd guess it's the water. Still not as good to my tastes as the family owned joint a few blocks from me, but excellent just the same. Katz Deli for bagels and cream cheese for breakfast, and corned beef on rye with mustard and pickles on the side for the rest of the day (We dare you to finish one). Awesome. Bagels had a similar taste to the pizza crust, reinforcing my "it's in the water" theory. Definitely the best bagel I've ever had, but one I bought at a corner shop tasted the same as what I get here. Corned beef was far and away the best I've ever had, and gigantic. 2 meals, with pickles left over for the ride home. I even went with the Cel-Ray, even though I don't particularly like it. Museum of Modern Art. Well worth the $20, just for the Picassos. It's always a thrill to see a painting I recognize, and since I'm a "I don't know art" kinda guy that doesn't happen often. I now have a much better appreciation of Pablo's work since I've seen some of it up close and in person. I have to say though, I just don't get a lot of this stuff. I guess I'm more of a classic art fan, much like my taste in rock music. The Sleeping Gypsy and Warhol's Campbell Soup cans were other highlights. Ollie's Noodles (the one in Times Square) for roasted pork, rice, and steamed shrimp dumplings. One of the plainest looking meals I've ever seen, and possibly the best I've ever eaten. I know that's saying a lot, but they should be sainted (or whatever) for whatever they used on the pork. Out freaking standing. Thanks RMGD!!! Jim ------------------------------ From: "Neil X." Subject: Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted Date: 28 Oct 2005 12:00:20 -0700 > DevsVult wrote: > > You just can't stand the fact that the so called neo-cons value Israel and > include her safety and protection in their efforts to eliminate threats to > our own security. You i would say approach traitor to a greater degree in > thought and expression though thankfully not in influence than any of > those crafting our foriegn policy.May your world view never prevail in this > Nations leadership. The idea of Kerrisey and Fortenberry discussing Israel--man, talk about your Usenet trainwrecks. It could be an ad for an Ed Wood movie: "You won't be able to look away when Christian Zealotry and Anti-Semitism Collide." Peace, Neil X. ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Rove gets pass???? Date: 28 Oct 2005 12:04:38 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > leftie wrote: > > kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > > > >> Scooter is but a pawn in how policy is implimented > >> today; > > > > > > Horseshit. Scooter nhelps design and implement policy. He's Cheney's > > Cheney, the VP's own personal Rove. > > > I actually have to agree. I didn't mean to imply he is small fry although it did read that way. I was trying to convey the overwhelming use of such tactics. Scooter did it, embodies it, got caught, and will probably pay for it. However, he is but one of way too many who view the ends justify the means. I don't view Scooter as the problem, but his approach. That approach is what is currently driving political discourse today. Kurt ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:05:00 GMT DevsVult wrote: > "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message > news:5ft8f.3770$8W.3631@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > >>Why in the hell has it taken this long to indict that >>preppie, neo-con, traiterous son-of-a-bitch ? I mean >>shouldn't it be illegal to be older than 19 and still >>be called "Scooter" ? And shouldn't Dick Cheney be >>locked in a room and sexually assaulted by a horny as >>hell 800 pound gorilla fired up on cheap meth ? >> >>Inquiring minds need to know. >> >>-- >>Ken Fortenberry > > > You just can't stand the fact that the so called neo-cons value Israel and > include her safety and protection in their efforts to eliminate threats to > our own security. You i would say approach traitor to a greater degree in > thought and expression though thankfully not in influence than any of > those crafting our foriegn policy.May your world view never prevail in this > Nations leadership. Zionism is racism and racism is *never* in our national interest. No two-state solution will ever work in Palestine. Palestine will be secular, democratic, safe home to Christians, Muslims and Jews alike who live with each other in peace or it will be perpetual war. It may take an international peace-keeping force to make it so but creating two states in an area as small as Palestine is inherently racist and will never, ever work. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: I am thinking of driving up to Vermont today. Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:43:36 -0400 Rogues Island's finest wrote: > > John Doherty wrote: > > > ba ba booie wrote: > > > > > > > > > > How cold is really up there? > > > > > > In article <1130503521.889544.163580@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > > "Rogues Island's finest" wrote: > > > > > > > It's nipply today and the weather Saturday is supposed to be shit. Cold > > > rain and snow... > > > > "Nipply", eh? > > > > I hadn't heard that variation. > > I've adopted it as a way to combine two of my favorite things: winter > and nipples. Perhaps thats three things, but you get the idea. That's been around since I was a kid. It was usually used as "It's a tit nipply out today." > > > I expect that's colder than nippy, cold enough to cause a reaction on > > this part of the anatomy? ;-) > > Bingo. > > > Is there some standard, for nipply? Like under a wool shirt with a > > T-shirt? > > Another one of my rules: any level of nipply perkiness, provided they > are not aimed at the floor, is most welcomed. > > > Maybe "nutly" is even colder? ;-) > > That would be numbnuts, and it most certainly IS colder. You must > never speak of it again. > > Mark ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:41:19 -0400 DevsVult wrote: > > "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message > news:5ft8f.3770$8W.3631@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > > Why in the hell has it taken this long to indict that > > preppie, neo-con, traiterous son-of-a-bitch ? I mean > > shouldn't it be illegal to be older than 19 and still > > be called "Scooter" ? And shouldn't Dick Cheney be > > locked in a room and sexually assaulted by a horny as > > hell 800 pound gorilla fired up on cheap meth ? > > > > Inquiring minds need to know. > > > > -- > > Ken Fortenberry > > You just can't stand the fact that the so called neo-cons value Israel and > include her safety and protection in their efforts to eliminate threats to > our own security. You i would say approach traitor to a greater degree in > thought and expression though thankfully not in influence than any of > those crafting our foriegn policy.May your world view never prevail in this > Nations leadership. Holy CRAP! Izzat you, Nooberry? ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Rove gets pass???? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:07:36 GMT leftie wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > >> leftie wrote: >> >>> kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: >>> >>>> Scooter is but a pawn in how policy is implimented >>>> today; >>> >>> >>> Horseshit. Scooter nhelps design and implement policy. He's Cheney's >>> Cheney, the VP's own personal Rove. >> >> >> I actually have to agree. > > > That's twice in one month we agree. Something seems amiss in the > universe. ;-) Let's just say I'm on a highway and a big red and blue elephant appears from the right side of road. Which way should I veer? ;-) -JC ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Rove gets pass???? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:09:40 GMT kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > >>leftie wrote: >> >>>kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Scooter is but a pawn in how policy is implimented >>>>today; >>> >>> >>>Horseshit. Scooter nhelps design and implement policy. He's Cheney's >>>Cheney, the VP's own personal Rove. >> >> >>I actually have to agree. > > > I didn't mean to imply he is small fry although it did read that way. > I was trying to convey the overwhelming use of such tactics. Scooter > did > it, embodies it, got caught, and will probably pay for it. However, he > is but one of way too many who view the ends justify the means. I don't > view Scooter as the problem, but his approach. That approach is what is > currently driving political discourse today. That's true. But seriously, it's pretty clear that the Bush administration's approach has been even more divisive than past administrations. Cheney plays a large role in that IMO. -JC ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Anybody get Creamed @ the Garden last nite? Date: 28 Oct 2005 12:09:40 -0700 Spider Dawg wrote: > On 2005-10-25, ba ba booie wrote: > > Anybody get Creamed @ the Garden last nite? > > > > > > Just wondering if any reviews are out from last nites show. Anyone here > > go? Good, bad, ugly? > > > > > > booie....... > > I've just gotten home from Wednesday night's show, too fatigued to go > into much detail right now but I can say I had one of the best, if not > *the* best times of my life. I was waiting for your review. Glad you had a good time. Kurt ------------------------------ From: "Eli Renfro" Subject: Re: cream bt Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:05:09 -0400 > You must have been at a different show. Perhaps you went to a Half 'n Half > show at the old Boston Garden. I spent $80/ticket and walked down to sit in > the $350 seats. That worked out real well. I got a $350 ticket for $40 on Tuesday. ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:09:14 GMT Neil X. wrote: >>DevsVult wrote: >> >> You just can't stand the fact that the so called neo-cons value Israel and >>include her safety and protection in their efforts to eliminate threats to >>our own security. You i would say approach traitor to a greater degree in >>thought and expression though thankfully not in influence than any of >>those crafting our foriegn policy.May your world view never prevail in this >>Nations leadership. > > > > The idea of Kerrisey and Fortenberry discussing Israel--man, talk about > your Usenet trainwrecks. It could be an ad for an Ed Wood movie: "You > won't be able to look away when Christian Zealotry and Anti-Semitism > Collide." There's nothing anti-Semitic about being anti-Zionist. That's a lesson many Americans are in dire need of learning. -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:13:53 GMT Ken Fortenberry wrote: > DevsVult wrote: > >> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message >> news:5ft8f.3770$8W.3631@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >> >>> Why in the hell has it taken this long to indict that >>> preppie, neo-con, traiterous son-of-a-bitch ? I mean >>> shouldn't it be illegal to be older than 19 and still >>> be called "Scooter" ? And shouldn't Dick Cheney be >>> locked in a room and sexually assaulted by a horny as >>> hell 800 pound gorilla fired up on cheap meth ? >>> >>> Inquiring minds need to know. >>> >>> -- >>> Ken Fortenberry >> >> >> >> You just can't stand the fact that the so called neo-cons value >> Israel and >> include her safety and protection in their efforts to eliminate >> threats to >> our own security. You i would say approach traitor to a greater >> degree in >> thought and expression though thankfully not in influence than any of >> those crafting our foriegn policy.May your world view never prevail in >> this >> Nations leadership. > > > Zionism is racism and racism is *never* in our national interest. > > No two-state solution will ever work in Palestine. Palestine will > be secular, democratic, safe home to Christians, Muslims and Jews > alike who live with each other in peace or it will be perpetual war. > It may take an international peace-keeping force to make it so but > creating two states in an area as small as Palestine is inherently > racist and will never, ever work. It's the only way it'll ever be. The land is worthless (other than to the extremists on both sides) without Israel's economy. The reason Palestine is so desirable has much to do with what Israel has done with the land in recent history. -JC ------------------------------ From: "Neil X." Subject: Re: FUJI CD_R and DVD ALERT! Date: 28 Oct 2005 12:15:13 -0700 > Seth wrote: > > I've bought several spindles of Fuji Cd-Rs that had rebate offers, and > I always got my rebates within the specified time. Maybe it's a > function of where you bought the stuff. I bought my CDRs at > OfficeMax. Hmmm, I bought some Fuji spindles at Office Max and did the online rebate thing. It was supposed to come in 2 weeks, but never did come after 3 months. I contacted them, asked for my rebate, they said they never got my stuff, and that I should have made copies in case the Post Office lost my envelope. I told them I had copies, asked where to send them. They weren't sure, said they'd email me. A week later, my rebate arrived. But I still buy Fujis, they are still the best disks around. I just don't ever assume I'm going to get my rebate unless I jump through hoops. Peace, Neil X. ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:15:48 GMT Ken Fortenberry wrote: > Neil X. wrote: > >>> DevsVult wrote: >>> >>> You just can't stand the fact that the so called neo-cons value >>> Israel and >>> include her safety and protection in their efforts to eliminate >>> threats to >>> our own security. You i would say approach traitor to a greater >>> degree in >>> thought and expression though thankfully not in influence than any of >>> those crafting our foriegn policy.May your world view never prevail >>> in this >>> Nations leadership. >> >> >> >> >> The idea of Kerrisey and Fortenberry discussing Israel--man, talk about >> your Usenet trainwrecks. It could be an ad for an Ed Wood movie: "You >> won't be able to look away when Christian Zealotry and Anti-Semitism >> Collide." > > > There's nothing anti-Semitic about being anti-Zionist. That's a > lesson many Americans are in dire need of learning. One could argue you're a racist for maintaining land stolen from the Indians by using your logic. Israel exists. It's pure fantasy they'll just give it up. Drink a few cups of coffee and get back to me. -JC ------------------------------ From: Ken Fortenberry Subject: Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:16:15 GMT JC Martin wrote: > Ken Fortenberry wrote: >> Zionism is racism and racism is *never* in our national interest. >> >> No two-state solution will ever work in Palestine. Palestine will >> be secular, democratic, safe home to Christians, Muslims and Jews >> alike who live with each other in peace or it will be perpetual war. >> It may take an international peace-keeping force to make it so but >> creating two states in an area as small as Palestine is inherently >> racist and will never, ever work. > > It's the only way it'll ever be. The land is worthless (other than to > the extremists on both sides) without Israel's economy. The reason > Palestine is so desirable has much to do with what Israel has done with > the land in recent history. Like steal it, you mean ? -- Ken Fortenberry ------------------------------ From: Spider Dawg Subject: Re: Anybody get Creamed @ the Garden last nite? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:18:33 -0500 On 2005-10-28, kpnnews@yahoo.com wrote: > > Spider Dawg wrote: >> On 2005-10-25, ba ba booie wrote: >> > Anybody get Creamed @ the Garden last nite? >> > >> > >> > Just wondering if any reviews are out from last nites show. Anyone here >> > go? Good, bad, ugly? >> > >> > >> > booie....... >> >> I've just gotten home from Wednesday night's show, too fatigued to go >> into much detail right now but I can say I had one of the best, if not >> *the* best times of my life. > > I was waiting for your review. Glad you had a good time. > > Kurt Let me know if you're ever coming to Detroit, I know this city quite well. For starters: stay in the suburbs, drive everywhere, and for events downtown park at the Greektown parking structure and get your parking validated at the casino before leaving. Jim ------------------------------ From: fmilews1@swarthmore.edu (flat9) Subject: Re: what should the United States do with combatants who don't belong to regular armies? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:19:05 GMT According to a previously posted review, play Kimock 'round the clock. Frank ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: Is Steve Kimock really this bad? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:51:10 -0400 minnehaha wrote: > > [...] > > > > That pretty much summed up my opinion of Kimock. I never could figure out > why so many people here who think they have good taste in music actually > like the guy. But I guess when you listen to something like Bruce Hornsby > enough, someone like Kimock seems cutting edge. BURRRRNNN! ------------------------------ From: "Peat her Rabbit" Subject: now hear DIS Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:21:08 GMT i can say lots of things, and let me tell you this...... ------------------------------ From: "DevsVult" Subject: Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:22:52 -0400 "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message news:3Ou8f.4735$Kv.404@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net... > JC Martin wrote: > > Ken Fortenberry wrote: > >> Zionism is racism and racism is *never* in our national interest. > >> > >> No two-state solution will ever work in Palestine. Palestine will > >> be secular, democratic, safe home to Christians, Muslims and Jews > >> alike who live with each other in peace or it will be perpetual war. > >> It may take an international peace-keeping force to make it so but > >> creating two states in an area as small as Palestine is inherently > >> racist and will never, ever work. > > > > It's the only way it'll ever be. The land is worthless (other than to > > the extremists on both sides) without Israel's economy. The reason > > Palestine is so desirable has much to do with what Israel has done with > > the land in recent history. > > Like steal it, you mean ? > > -- > Ken Fortenberry No he means making it blossom with life......... ------------------------------ From: "s. craw" Subject: Re: garcia's attorney Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:22:27 GMT artemama.com ------------------------------ From: naught@nil.com Subject: Re: Is Steve Kimock really this bad? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:23:57 +0000 (UTC) JC Martin wrote: > > Really? On what level would you say? Compositionally, I'm not blown > away. Someone like Fleck (another jam-jazzy-lite guy) is far more > sophisticated harmonically and his compositions bear that out. Visit the kimock discussion forum some time and you'll see. He's into the whole Mathieu overtone thing (Mathieu's approach to harmony was a big influence on later Coltrane). I've heard Kimock play bebop and wonderful chord melody stuff over the years--he knows all that stuff inside and out--he just largely rejects it in terms of composition and improv. Listen to, for example, his version of Alice in Wonderland at Fayetteville a few years ago. It's very nice bebop style stuff. As far as the Mathieu thing, check out his post from the forum taking on the traditional view of chord substitution: http://www.online-discussion.com/SteveKimock/viewtopic.php?t=192 You can argue whether the final product is "good" or not, but it would be totally wrong to try to say he doesn't have a strong understanding of harmony. ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: New England Skiers!!!! Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:29:43 GMT May I remind you that real men DONT ski. Whats next for you, nantucket? Figure skating? ------------------------------ From: "Deke_Rivers" Subject: Re: NDC Neo-con traitor indicted Date: 28 Oct 2005 12:31:36 -0700 >Zionism is racism and racism is *never* in our national interest. >No two-state solution will ever work in Palestine. Palestine will >be secular, democratic, safe home to Christians, Muslims and Jews Oh yes, very safe for Jews, ask the president of Iran!! Pierre ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:34:29 -0700 wrote in message news:1130518264.747452.82580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > She may have more geo-political knowledge than Bush, but that doesn't > mean Bush is any less intelligent. Bush does not have a foreign policy > background. Considering that Bush has been president for more than 5 years he ought to have a foreign policy background by now. Nope. No such background exists. His Iraq war misadventure contained more false assumptions (followed by more lies) than any conflict the US has ever been involved in. He knew less than nothing about Iraq, Iraqis, the factions, the ethnic groups, the religious sects, the history of the country, or its physical and economic infrastructure before deciding to invade, conquer, and occupy it. An intelligent person would do his homework before making such a decision. Instead Bush relied on his gut feelings. He's a real dope alright. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: List of those to lie in honor at Capitol Rotunda Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:38:35 -0700 "wyeknot" wrote in message news:3sf7k0Fo1s3fU1@individual.net... > List of those to lie in honor at Capitol Rotunda > > 1852: Henry Clay, Kentucky representative, senator and sec'y of state. > 1865: Abraham Lincoln, president. > 1868: Thaddeus Stevens, Pennsylvania member of the House. > 1874: Charles Sumner, Massachusetts senator. > 1875: Henry Wilson, Massachusetts senator, vice president. > 1881: James Garfield, president. > 1886: John Alexander Logan, Illinois representative and senator. > 1901: William McKinley, president. > 1909: Pierre Charles L'Enfant, architect who designed Washington, D.C. > 1917: George Dewey, admiral, hero of Manila Bay in Spanish-American War. > 1921: Unknown soldier of World War I. > 1923: Warren Harding, president. > 1930: William Howard Taft, president. > 1948: John Pershing, general of the armies of the United States. > 1953: Robert Taft, Ohio senator. > 1958: Unknown soldiers of World War II and the Korean War. > 1963: John F. Kennedy, president. > 1964: Douglas MacArthur, general during World War II, Korean War. > 1964: Herbert Hoover, president. > 1969: Dwight D. Eisenhower, president. > 1969: Everett Dirksen, Illinois representative, senator. > 1972: J. Edgar Hoover, first FBI director. > 1973: Lyndon Johnson, president. > 1978: Hubert Humphrey, vice president, Minnesota senator. > 1984: Unknown soldier of the Vietnam era. > 1989: Claude Pepper, Florida representative, senator. > 1998: Jacob Chestnut and John Gibson, slain Capitol police officers. > 2004: Ronald Reagan, president. > 2005: Rosa Parks Parks will be donning the same lovely cocktail dress first worn in the Rotunda by J. E. Hoover. Its been 30 years, so its back in style. EGBH ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: gimme gimme some a Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:39:35 GMT .....Ratdog! Anyone in Chi-town make it to the show last night??? ------------------------------ From: "Roxanne McDaniel" Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:42:57 GMT Does it really matter WHICH woman it is? Just let one in there to clean up this mess! ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .