From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #686 Dead-Flames Digest #686, Volume #48 Thu, 27 Oct 05 09:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) ("Carlisle") Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! (JC Martin) Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) (bigamps) Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! (wyeknot) Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! (wyeknot) Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! ("Carlisle") Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) ("Carlisle") Re: cheney = traitor ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: jams you enjoy other than gdead (fogdog) Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! (JC Martin) Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: shes gone (joker4153@comcast.net) Re: What the hell is wrong with Astros fans? (joker4153@comcast.net) (NDC) If Fox News Had Been Around Throughout History (bigamps) Re: shes gone ("Everybody's Gonna Be Happy") Re: A GIANT THANK YOU ("pbleers@hotmail.com") Re: jams you enjoy other than gdead ("DevsVult") Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? (memory705@hotmail.com) Re: A GIANT THANK YOU ("scarletbgonias@hotmail.com") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) Date: 27 Oct 2005 07:57:40 -0700 Ray wrote: > I read several, but my favorite is the "War Room" at Salon.com. > Liberal and anti-Bush, too be sure. Political bias notwithstanding, > they generally get their facts right and separate facts from > speculation. > > Salon.com is in general a reliable source for in-depth coverage of many > issues - well worth the $ IMO. > > Ray Here's a good source for well researched information that Ray and I both have turned to in our moments of doubt and pain-- http://www.opinionjournal.com/ Help on the way. cpc ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:12:36 GMT Bill wrote: > "JimK" wrote > >>"Bill" wrote >> >>>JimK" wrote > > >>>>As far as Garcia v. Frisell, I'd love to have'em both in the same >>>>band. >>> >>>Not me. Weir was perfect for Garcia. Frisell would be noise to Garcia's >>>playing like Clarence Clemmons was in the JGB. >>> >>>Bill >>> >> >>Can't agree there. Actually, I find a lot of similarities in the >>styles of Weir and Frisell. Both play a lot of those jagged, edgy >>chords. I can't imagine calling Frisell's playing "noise" no matter >>what the context. And comparing him to Clarence Clemons has to be a >>joke, right? >> >>JimK > > > My point was that Dead/JGB shows with guest musicians tended not to work > well IMO because Garcia would hold back some, no matter what the talent of > the musician playing with Garcia. Thus I preferred no guest musicians. > > I used Clarence Clemons as an example of this because that was the guest > musician I saw the most play with Garcia (2 times I think). It was the same > way when I saw Santana jam with the Dead on Keith's last show. > > I didn't mean to imply that Frisell's playing is noise - anybody guesting > with Jerry was "noise" IMO for the reason I stated above - it resulted in > less Jerry. But I'm no expert on Frisell (saw him once in a small hall about > 10 feet away from him) so perhaps the playing of the two would mesh well (if > they played together enough). The question originally wasn't whether they mesh or not. Again, even though Garcia is my favorite player, Frisell clearly has vastly superior chops. I've seen the guy perform classical pieces. You think Garcia can play classical or jazz you dope? -JC ------------------------------ From: bigamps Subject: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:23:22 GMT Carlisle wrote: > > Here's a good source for well researched information that Ray and I > both have turned to in our moments of doubt and pain-- > http://www.opinionjournal.com/ > Help on the way. > cpc 'OpinionJournal, from the Wall Street Journal' I tried it, noticed an article titled 'It's time to rein in special prosecutors' (I disagree) and found I have to register to read anything. Sorry, too many other sites without mandatory registration (translated: 'we're gonna spam you') to bother with reading some reputedly right wing biased page. If I want right wing propaganda I can read Free Republic, as I sometimes do. John Doherty's list is close to my own, I'd add http://www.bartcop.com/ as he picks on Dems as well as Repubs. ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:23:51 -0400 JC Martin wrote: > The question originally wasn't whether they mesh or not. Again, even > though Garcia is my favorite player, Frisell clearly has vastly superior > chops. I've seen the guy perform classical pieces. You think Garcia > can play classical or jazz you dope? ^^^ ^^^ (1) (2) (1) bad tense choice (2) you mispelled "on" ;-) Matt ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:27:23 -0400 > JC Martin wrote: > >> The question originally wasn't whether they mesh or not. Again, even >> though Garcia is my favorite player, Frisell clearly has vastly >> superior chops. I've seen the guy perform classical pieces. >> You think Garcia can play classical or jazz you dope? ^^^ ^^^ (1) (2) (1) bad tense choice (2) you mispelled "on" Take two. ;-) Matt ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! Date: 27 Oct 2005 08:31:50 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > Bill wrote: > > "JimK" wrote > > > >>"Bill" wrote > >> > >>>JimK" wrote > > > > > >>>>As far as Garcia v. Frisell, I'd love to have'em both in the same > >>>>band. > >>> > >>>Not me. Weir was perfect for Garcia. Frisell would be noise to Garcia's > >>>playing like Clarence Clemmons was in the JGB. > >>> > >>>Bill > >>> > >> > >>Can't agree there. Actually, I find a lot of similarities in the > >>styles of Weir and Frisell. Both play a lot of those jagged, edgy > >>chords. I can't imagine calling Frisell's playing "noise" no matter > >>what the context. And comparing him to Clarence Clemons has to be a > >>joke, right? > >> > >>JimK > > > > > > My point was that Dead/JGB shows with guest musicians tended not to work > > well IMO because Garcia would hold back some, no matter what the talent of > > the musician playing with Garcia. Thus I preferred no guest musicians. > > > > I used Clarence Clemons as an example of this because that was the guest > > musician I saw the most play with Garcia (2 times I think). It was the same > > way when I saw Santana jam with the Dead on Keith's last show. > > > > I didn't mean to imply that Frisell's playing is noise - anybody guesting > > with Jerry was "noise" IMO for the reason I stated above - it resulted in > > less Jerry. But I'm no expert on Frisell (saw him once in a small hall about > > 10 feet away from him) so perhaps the playing of the two would mesh well (if > > they played together enough). > > > > The question originally wasn't whether they mesh or not. Again, even > though Garcia is my favorite player, Frisell clearly has vastly superior > chops. I've seen the guy perform classical pieces. You think Garcia > can play classical or jazz you dope? > > -JC He could definitely play some decent jazz. I've heard exceptionally good things about Bill Frisell. Although I don't have any of his work, I plan to. With that said, Jerry could lay down the improvisational jazz with style and flair. I'm sure you've checked out some of the music that came out of Jerry's collaboration with Merl Saunders. They did a terrific version of "My Funny Valentine". So yeah he could hold his own. You are such a trouble maker, JC!! This also might sound like blasphemy to you jazz snobs out there but I thought that Phish made a nice jazz quartet when they wanted to. Check out Magilla>The Landlady from "A Picture of Nectar" sometime. Popular musicians like Jerry Garcia and yes, Phish were a gateway, primer, or introduction to develop a deeper interest in the masters. But no one is a dope just because they think Jerry could play classical or jazz. You just disagree with them is all. peace, Carrie ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) Date: 27 Oct 2005 08:36:53 -0700 > > John Doherty's list is close to my own, I'd add > > http://www.bartcop.com/ as he picks on Dems as well as Repubs. Funny site. I'm adding all these to my Favorites file. Most blogs are very one side or the other, I've found. All good things in all good time. Carrie ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: cheney = traitor Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:38:17 -0700 "Seth Jackson" wrote in message news:trs0m11h3uauuhedqoimvnk2jevko22606@4ax.com... > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 00:22:31 -0400, JimK > wrote: > >>On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:20:48 -0700, DG wrote: >> >>>leftie wrote: >>>> >>>>Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >>>> >>>>> This leaking business is much ado about nothing, especially as you >>>>> describe >>>>> it. >>>> >>>>Fitzgerald Focus: An Anonymous Star on the CIA's Wall of Honor >>>>by MoronMike >>>>Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 04:16:33 PM PDT >>>> >>>>With the Republicans girding for indictments on such "trivial" matters >>>>as perjury, obstruction of justice, and lying to investigators, let's be >>>>clear on what is at the heart of Fitzgerald's investigation: The >>>>violation of one or more federal statutes concerning the naming of >>>>covert CIA agents and/or their NOC companies. >>>> >>>>While there are many interesting facets of this case, what started it >>>>all, and the most important element, are the real-world consequences of >>>>outing covert agents. >>>> >>>>This from Wikipedia: >>>> >>>> An anonymous star was added to the wall between named stars that >>>>can be dated to deaths on February 5, 2003 and October 25, 2003. The >>>>anonymous star thus fits the timing of the Plame leak. Wayne Madsen, a >>>>reporter and former NSA employee, has claimed, "CIA sources report that >>>>at least one anonymous star placed on the CIA's Wall of Honor at its >>>>Langley, Virginia headquarters is a clandestine agent who was executed >>>>in a hostile foreign nation as a direct result of the White House leak." >>>> >>>>So, for all those out there who think this is just politics, think about >>>>the person behind that anonymous star. >>>> >>>>http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/25/191633/61 >>> >>> >>>If this is a direct result of the leak then the death penalty should >>>be considered. >>> >>I'm not totally dismissing it, but if this was true I think we'd have >>heard a lot more about it. > > You don't think the White House would be doing everything possible to > cover it up? You do realize that anyone can write a Wikipedia entry, hit submit, and its up on the site, right? EGBH ------------------------------ From: fogdog Subject: Re: jams you enjoy other than gdead Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:36:45 -0400 Richard Morris wrote: > "fogdog" wrote in message > news:djpv5g$256$1@news-int.gatech.edu... > >>fogdog wrote: >> >>>I got blind faith's self-titled album with the chick on the front of it >>>and man its a rockin' album. Does anyone have any other recommendations >>>for hard rocking albums much like this? >> >>anyone else? > > > Happy Trails ... Quicksilver > > Yeah that is a great album. ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:40:14 GMT wyeknot wrote: > > JC Martin wrote: > > > >> The question originally wasn't whether they mesh or not. Again, even > >> though Garcia is my favorite player, Frisell clearly has vastly > >> superior chops. I've seen the guy perform classical pieces. > >> You think Garcia can play classical or jazz you dope? > ^^^ ^^^ > (1) (2) > > (1) bad tense choice > (2) you mispelled "on" > > Take two. > > ;-) Okay, that makes more sense. :-P -JC ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:41:08 -0700 "Steve Lenier" wrote in message news:BF858272.333C8%slenier@comcast.net... > in article 6yN7f.19$DP.279@eagle.america.net, Everybody's Gonna Be Happy > at > Davko58@crestviewcable.com wrote on 10/26/05 8:47 AM: > >> >> "Steve Lenier" wrote in message >> news:BF83F1BC.332A7%slenier@comcast.net... >>> Sooooo much is going on right now. And the bloggers are all over it. So >>> I'm >>> curious as to what you guys read, why you find certain ones interesting, >>> etc. Some of you know what former rmgd'er is now a MAJOR blogger, that >>> site >>> is a good one (smirking chimp). >>> >>> For full disclosure purposes, I need to mention that Teri and I market >>> her >>> drawing "Statue of Limitations" (http://www.statueoflimitations.us) on >>> blogs, and I may use your responses to help determine where to >>> advertise, >>> but frankly I'm interested in the question even without this aspect. >>> >>> Steve >> None, because my opinions are far superior to any expressed by others. >> >> EGBH > cool...how do we sign up for your personal RSS feed? :) > > Steve That's the thing: I'm wrong more often that not in my progostications, so instead of having a website or an RSS feed (whatever that is) I just dump my gunk on RMGD. EGBH ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: shes gone Date: 27 Oct 2005 08:41:21 -0700 Harriet Miers withdraws her nomination?!? Didn't see that one coming, did we? ##### Larry ------------------------------ From: joker4153@comcast.net Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with Astros fans? Date: 27 Oct 2005 08:43:20 -0700 Could it be the team they have to support? I for one am sick of all things TexASS. I say, let them play a 5th game so texASS can get it's ass whooped one more time! Larry ------------------------------ From: bigamps Subject: (NDC) If Fox News Had Been Around Throughout History Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:51:26 GMT http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1ldyn/id2.html ------------------------------ From: "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" Subject: Re: shes gone Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:52:07 -0700 "Don Bean" wrote in message news:mc48f.13561$rE2.3635@fe10.lga... > bush realized hes an idiot....... now were gonna see jesus get a > nomination..... Bush still thinks she's super keen. It was those pesky senators, of both parties, who were left totally unimpressed with this mental and legal midget in their one on one converstaions with her that brought her down. She apparently impressed no one. Bush used her work as White House counsel as the main reason why she should be confirmed. Then he decided no one but him should have any idea what that work was: "It is clear that senators would not be satisfied until they gained access to internal documents concerning advice provided during her tenure at the White House -- disclosures that would undermine a president's ability to receive candid counsel." Then why'd ya nominate her? Then he tells her she's kaput and issues the standard political statement when a president yanks somebody for his own good: "Harriet Miers' decision demonstrates her deep respect for this essential aspect of the constitutional separation of powers -- and confirms my deep respect and admiration for her." He's really in a box now. The ultra right will demand even more vigorously than usual some religious fanatic. The Dems will plant their feet more firmly in the ground than usual, and we may very well end up with nuclear option / filibuster scenario everyone fears. In other words, 8 Supreme Court justices until Bush leaves office? EGBH ------------------------------ From: "pbleers@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: A GIANT THANK YOU Date: 27 Oct 2005 08:53:02 -0700 Ditto. I got in on Ricks giveaway too. Twas like Christmas in October. The NRPS reunion show from 10/01, which me and the family listened to a few times last weekend, was quite a treat. And I have 97 more discs to listen too...... ------------------------------ From: "DevsVult" Subject: Re: jams you enjoy other than gdead Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:55:21 -0400 "fogdog" wrote in message news:djjmbl$1mf$2@news-int.gatech.edu... > I got blind faith's self-titled album with the chick on the front of it > and man its a rockin' album. Does anyone have any other recommendations > for hard rocking albums much like this? you'll want to check out ealry King Crimson. Try to find the Collector's Club releases particularly from Detroit in '71 and Summit Studio's in '72. Lots of powerfilled improvisational jamming to be had there. ------------------------------ From: memory705@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: 27 Oct 2005 08:57:56 -0700 Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > wrote in message > news:1130344363.586183.156800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > > > Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: > >> wrote in message > >> news:1130340819.108824.276380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> > >> > And what does not being married have to do with it? > >> > >> The primitive religionists will interpret that as being a lesbian. > >> > >> A black lesbian with a fancy college education. > >> > >> That pretty much rules her out as a Republican presidential candidate. > > > I don't think they would mind her having an advanced degree. George W. > > Bush not only has an advanced degree, but an Ivy League advanced > > degree, and not just any Ivy League advanced degree, but a Harvard MBA. > > But Bush is obviously as stupid as the American Taliban, no matter what > school he skated through. > > Rice is obviously very bright; a smart, well educated, black (lesbian?) > member of the east (and west) coast elite who goes to churches where blacks > were bombed by good ole boys instead of a church where snakes are handled > and strychine drunk. They both seem equally intelligent to me. They agree on everything and connect very well on a personal level. > > > But instead of arguing about whether or not Condi could get elected or > > reading Dick Moris' book, why not just look at the polls? > > What do they tell us? They tell you whether or not the people would vote for her. ------------------------------ From: "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: A GIANT THANK YOU Date: 27 Oct 2005 08:58:56 -0700 I was also a beneficiary of Rick's housecleaning. I got as far as sorting the spindles by date, etc., and mine range from '69 to maybe mid 80s. Also contained some OAITW stuff which looks real sweet. Now that I can work with .shn a whole new world is upon me. Yeehaw, the burner's been busy (an understatement to say the least). Thank you Theresa ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .