From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #673 Dead-Flames Digest #673, Volume #48 Tue, 25 Oct 05 18:00:02 PDT Contents: Re: 43 today happy birthday to me!! ("RickNBarbInSD") Limited B&P Offer (Dogstar) Limited B&P Offer (Dogstar) Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) ("scarletbgonias@hotmail.com") Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) ("Steve Terry") Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) ("Ray") JGB 7/23/77 BT ("Sean Baker") Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) ("Carlisle") Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) ("Carlisle") Re: JGB 7/23/77 BT ("Steve Terry") Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) (Steve Lenier) Re: RIP Rosa Parks (Steve Lenier) Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) ("Stuknot") Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) ("Stuknot") Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! (Steve Lenier) Re: A Conservative viewpoint.... (Seth Jackson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RickNBarbInSD" Subject: Re: 43 today happy birthday to me!! Date: 25 Oct 2005 15:42:42 -0700 seraphim wrote: > Well now I am 43......oh yeah happy b-day to me!! Happy Birthday to you!! Rick ------------------------------ From: Dogstar Subject: Limited B&P Offer Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:48:05 GMT Unfortunatly I do not have much spare time so I can only do a couple of B&Ps. Here is the info: Grateful Dead 9-28-1972 (Discs: CDA-3/SHN-2) Stanley Theater Jersey City NJ Bertha Remaster of the patched master reel source SBD>>MR>>DAT>>CDA>>WAV>>SHN>>FLAC>>DAW(Bertha)>>SHN/CDA - Sound A- UNK.AUD>>CASS>>???>>DAT>>WAV>>FLAC - Sound D Set1 d1t01-Truckin' d1t02-Loser d1t03-Beat it on down the line d1t04-Brown-Eyed Women d1t05-Mexicali Blues d1t06-Mississippi Half-step d1t07-Black-Throated Wind d1t08-Don't Ease Me In d1t09-Big River d1t10-Tennessee Jed d1t11-Promised Land d1t12-China Cat Sunflower >> d1t13-I Know You Rider Set2 d2t01-Playin' In The Band d2t02-//Bertha >> (Cuts In) d2t03-Greatest story ever told d2t04-Brokedown palace d2t05-Funiculi Funicula/Tuning d2t06-Me & my uncle d2t07-Ramble on rose d2t08-El Paso d2t09-He's Gone >> d2t10-Drums/Bass >> d3t01-The Other One >> d3t02-Jam >> d3t03-Me & Bobby Magee >> d3t04-The Other One >> d3t05-Wharf Rat d3t06-Sugar Magnolia d3t07-Not Fade Away >> d3t08-Going Down The Road >> d3t09-Not Fade Away Notes: Digitally remastered using a custom built, Dual-DAW, nicknamed Bertha, by jashley@deadacated.com. Completed on December 12, 2004. http://www.deadacated.com/BerthaRemasters.htm Source used 26933 via Tol, by Chris Ladner. Light Digital Noise Reduction was found with Spectral Analysis prior to Bertha Remastering. The same DNR was found on source 12657, which is the source Chris used for 26933. It is not known who applied the noise reduction, but they did a decent job, producing no audible artifacts. The noise reduction had only minor effects on the remastering process. Spectral Analysis also shows three different fingerprints for the soundboard portion. This would tend to indicate that the soundboard portion did not all come from the same source. The AUD patches are pretty rough. I considered removing them, but decided to leave them in. As the AuD portions transition back into the board, one gets a pretty good feel for the quality of this 72 board. The soundboard mix is all over the place at the start. No vocals on d1t02 until 5:47. It takes a couple tracks to settle in. Strangely, the channels were swapped towards the beginning of The Other One and I swapped them back. There are lots of small digiblips throughout. These were, most likely, caused during the transfer. I removed Between 40 and 50 of them by editing individual samples. In addition, a few fade-out/ins were added to clean up transitions. There is some very sweet sounding early 72 bass in this one. Enjoy! From the original text file, prior to Bertha Remastering: Primary Source: SBD>MR>DAT>CDR>WAV>SHN>WAV>FLAC Secondary source: Unknown audience > C > ? > DAT >WAV > FLAC Comments/flaws: d1t01 - Truckin' completely absent from all previous sources; from audience. d1t02 - muted vocals for 1st ~5:50 of Loser - on all copies. d1t06 - missing 01:52 seconds of Half Step starting at "Across the rio grand-e-o... (04:00) spliced from audience source d1t11 - splice from audience source completes the cut in IKYR. d2t03 - removed short redundancy 05:23.4 - 05:45.7. d3t05 - Fixed pop at 0:24.4 & 26.9 due to L&R channel inversion & dropout at 12:27.1 d3t06 - Removed 0.77 sec dropout at 0:48.3 ------------------------------ From: Dogstar Subject: Limited B&P Offer Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:00:53 GMT Contact info: dogstar1~*at*~mailworks.org ------------------------------ From: "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) Date: 25 Oct 2005 16:06:55 -0700 Think Progress Blog http://www.thinkprogress.org Solar Bus Election Justice Center (contains links to many blogs) http://www.solarbus.org/election/realnews.shtml ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:08:33 -0500 rec.music.gdead ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) Date: 25 Oct 2005 16:27:28 -0700 I read several, but my favorite is the "War Room" at Salon.com. Liberal and anti-Bush, too be sure. Political bias notwithstanding, they generally get their facts right and separate facts from speculation. Salon.com is in general a reliable source for in-depth coverage of many issues - well worth the $ IMO. Ray ------------------------------ From: "Sean Baker" Subject: JGB 7/23/77 BT Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:33:59 -0500 http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=19194 7-23-1977 Jerry Garcia Band Keystone Berkeley CA Bertha Remaster of the Master Cassette source (shn id 30662) SBD > MC > DAT > DAW(Bertha) > Audio DVD > DVD Audio Extractor v.3.3.2 (audio files extracted prior to burning to DVD disc) > wav > downsampled to 44.1 wav with Wave Lab v.5.00a > dithered to from 24-16 bit depth with Wave Lab UV22 HR Plugin > SBEs fixed with shntool v.2.0.3 > files rennamed with File Renamer v.1.0.0 > FLAC encoding with FLAC Frontend v.1.7.1 Etree Edition, FLAC v.1.1.2 (audio DVD extraction through FLAC encoding by Gary F. 10/2005) Thanks to Charlie Miller for the original source and to Jay Ashley for the Audio DVD source. Set 1: d1t01 Tuning d1t02 Sugaree d1t03 Tuning d1t04 Stop That Train d1t05 Mystery Train d1t06 Simple Twist Of Fate d1t07 The Way You Do The Things You Do Set 2: d2t01 Tuning d2t02 They Love Each Other d2t03 Sitting In Limbo d2t04 Tuning d2t05 Tore Up Over You d2t06 My Sisters And Brothers d2t07 Tuning d2t08 Stir It Up d2t09 Tangled Up In Blue Notes: Digitally Remastered using a custom built, Dual-DAW nicknamed Bertha, by jashley@deadacated.com. Completed October 23, 2005. The mix starts out rough and improves about 3 minutes in to Sugaree There is a deep crackling sound that occurs occasionally that sounds like it may be from a blown bass speaker, possibly a broken compliance. Frequency analysis supports the source as being a Master Cassette with 16khz of bandwidth and what appears to be a single layer of tape noise. This is an excellent recording, except for the intermittant crackling. Note: the original Bertha 24/48 Audio DVD is available here: http://server2.deadacated.com:9000/index.html Peace, Sean -- "Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only real cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas." Hunter S. Thompson My music list for trades: http://db.etree.org/FionaRCB ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) Date: 25 Oct 2005 16:54:51 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > Carlisle wrote: > > Richard Morris wrote: > > > >>"Carlisle" wrote in message > >>news:1130074508.988782.166000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> > >>snip > >> > >> > >>>Hey R, > >>> Mkay. > >>>If any laws were broken even if there is no way that national security > >>>and/or anyone's personal safety was at stake, then due punishment > >>>should be applied. The perps should take their lumps. The rule of law > >>>is the rule of law. How's that for reasonin' y'all?! > >>>peace & awe, > >>>Carlisle > >>> > >> > >>Okay, now that is just half the pie though. > >> > >>The other half is, how do you feel about an administration that would use > >>these kind of tactics, which appear to be unlawful (we will know after the > >>jury makes a decision), in order to discredit someone who was critical of > >>their propoganda machine? > >> > >>Remember, this was about yellow cake uranium, weapons of mass destruction, > >>and the reasons we invaded Iraq. Remember that? > >> > >>Reason that, please. > >> > >>Richard > > > > > > Well Richard since you want to make me out to be the poster child for > > the "vast right-wing conspiracy", I'll answer like this. They got > > arrogant and played hardball. It's not just republicans or > > conservatives that this happens to. > > > Right, but in this case we're talking about a war launched for false > purposes. And all the right can do is blame John Kerry or Joe Wilson > (for writing an editorial that turned out to be mostly true BTW). > Sorry, but isn't a debate about the corruptibility of politicians and > powerful economic players. This is about the future of our nation, and > how a bunch of greedy assholes changed the course of this nation for at > least several decades. But hey, as long as it's legal for Dick Cheney > to make money off of Haliburton (a war profiteering corporation), who > needs accountability?!?! ####### > > -JC This is an honest question>>Does Cheney still have any connections to Halliburton?? Difficult to believe that he's profiting directly from the Iraqi war..That's what your last sentence sounds like though. peace plus, cpc ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) Date: 25 Oct 2005 17:00:45 -0700 Ray wrote: > JC Martin wrote: > > Carlisle wrote: > > > Bush's dream for Iraq?? According to the rhetoric anyway>>the > > > establishment of a modern constitutional state governed by the rule of > > > law and opposed to terrorists like al Qaeda. In turn, other despotic > > > regimes in the region would begin to reform, etc. This is how I > > > interpret the neo-con/Bush/Cheney dream for Iraq. I think it's a total > > > crap shoot and I think it sets a dangerous precedent. (I think I said > > > that already) > > > > Problem is, that was an argument formed AFTER the actual invasion of > > Iraq. The reason for going into Iraq wasn't to stabilize the Middle > > East. You really don't buy that, do you? > > FWIW I buy that - *in part*. Since Bush Administration's story shifts > and changes with the political winds and the need to be in at least > some sort of agreement with reality, so we don't really know for sure > what we attacked Iraq. (Strange, isn't it? We attacked and are now > fighting a war in another country, and we don't even know for sure > why.) That said, I believe that the Bush Administration attacked Iraq > for primarily these reasons (not in any particular order): > > * Oil > > * A belief that we had to deal with Saddam at some point, and a related > belief that Saddam had WMDs or a WMD program. (I don't think that said > belief was based on bad intelligence, however - I think that they just > assumed as much based on their reading of Saddam and his past history.) > > * The neocon dream of bringing democracy to the Arab states, and > thereby "popping the terrorist bubble". > > * Saddam tried to kill Bush Jr's dad. (I think that's part of Bush > Jr's motivations, anyway.) > > Of course they didn't sell it to the public that way - I think they > believed (probably correctly) that the public wouldn've never gone for > it if they were honest about their motives. So instead they lied and > went for the Let's-Scare-The-Bejeezus-Out-Of-Everyone (aka "terrorize") > / Saddam-has-WMDs-And-He's-Going-To-Use-Them-On-Us-Tomorrow -type hype. > > > Which of course worked beautifully... to get us into Iraq, anyway. > > Ray Good points all. I've not read anything about that CIA agent's testimony in the mainstream media that you asked me about. I'll try and keep an open mind though! thanxx, cpc ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: JGB 7/23/77 BT Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:07:18 -0500 "Sean Baker" wrote in message: > 7-23-1977 > Jerry Garcia Band > Keystone > Berkeley CA > > Bertha Remaster of the Master Cassette source (shn id 30662) > > SBD > MC > DAT > DAW(Bertha) > Audio DVD > DVD Audio Extractor v.3.3.2 > (audio files extracted prior to burning to DVD disc) > wav > downsampled > to 44.1 wav with Wave Lab v.5.00a > dithered to from 24-16 bit depth with > Wave Lab UV22 HR Plugin > SBEs fixed with shntool v.2.0.3 > files rennamed > with File Renamer v.1.0.0 > FLAC encoding with FLAC Frontend v.1.7.1 Etree > Edition, FLAC v.1.1.2 (audio DVD extraction through FLAC encoding by Gary > F. 10/2005) > Thanks to Charlie Miller for the original source and to Jay Ashley for the > Audio DVD source. > > Set 1: > d1t01 Tuning > d1t02 Sugaree > d1t03 Tuning > d1t04 Stop That Train > d1t05 Mystery Train > d1t06 Simple Twist Of Fate > d1t07 The Way You Do The Things You Do > > Set 2: > d2t01 Tuning > d2t02 They Love Each Other > d2t03 Sitting In Limbo > d2t04 Tuning > d2t05 Tore Up Over You > d2t06 My Sisters And Brothers > d2t07 Tuning > d2t08 Stir It Up > d2t09 Tangled Up In Blue I was listening to the Comes A Time Benefit today and was amazed by how much the singer for the JGB sounds like Jerry himself. It was spooky in spots. Does he look like him too? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:26:09 -0700 Subject: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) From: Steve Lenier in article 1130282848.413195.98070@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Ray at rayblee@hotmail.com wrote on 10/25/05 4:27 PM: > I read several, but my favorite is the "War Room" at Salon.com. > Liberal and anti-Bush, too be sure. Political bias notwithstanding, > they generally get their facts right and separate facts from > speculation. > > Salon.com is in general a reliable source for in-depth coverage of many > issues - well worth the $ IMO. > > Ray > I used to read Salon.com many years ago, before they started charging...as a cheapskate, I stopped once they instituted a fee. Maybe I should re-think that. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:31:26 -0700 Subject: Re: RIP Rosa Parks From: Steve Lenier in article syr7f.3039$ol.311@fe08.lga, Don Bean at donbean@optonline.net wrote on 10/25/05 7:45 AM: > I put the mp3 of the Nevilles song 'Sister Rosa' on my site... Give it a > listen !! > Bean > www.reggaetraders.com > nice of you to do, but I don't need to...I can just put in the CD :) Neville Brothers' Yellow Moon, very nice disc all around. Recommended. RIP Miss Rosa. Steve > > > "The Lord of Eltingville" wrote in > message news:djk74u0kau@news2.newsguy.com... >> Civil rights icon Rosa Parks dies >> 34 minutes ago >> >> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Rosa Parks, the black seamstress whose refusal to >> give her seat on a Montgomery, Alabama, bus to a white man sparked a >> revolution in American race relations, has died at age 92, CNN reported >> on Monday. > > ------------------------------ From: "Stuknot" Subject: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) Date: 25 Oct 2005 17:41:33 -0700 Steve Lenier wrote: > in article 1130282848.413195.98070@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Ray at > rayblee@hotmail.com wrote on 10/25/05 4:27 PM: > > > I read several, but my favorite is the "War Room" at Salon.com. > > Liberal and anti-Bush, too be sure. Political bias notwithstanding, > > they generally get their facts right and separate facts from > > speculation. > > > > Salon.com is in general a reliable source for in-depth coverage of many > > issues - well worth the $ IMO. > > > > Ray > > > > I used to read Salon.com many years ago, before they started charging...as a > cheapskate, I stopped once they instituted a fee. Maybe I should re-think > that. I stopped reading Salon during the great rmgd Salon boycott (Sarah Vowell had a really dumb article on deadheads) but started again several months ago. You can read for free by watching one of their sponsor's ads. However, I found myself liking it so much I paid the subscription fee. War Room is very good, as is the Daou Report which contains a pretty good summary of what the major right and left leaning bloggers are saying. Audiofile also keeps me informed about some good music. John H. ------------------------------ From: "Stuknot" Subject: Re: what political Blogs do you read? (nDc) Date: 25 Oct 2005 17:41:39 -0700 Steve Lenier wrote: > in article 1130282848.413195.98070@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Ray at > rayblee@hotmail.com wrote on 10/25/05 4:27 PM: > > > I read several, but my favorite is the "War Room" at Salon.com. > > Liberal and anti-Bush, too be sure. Political bias notwithstanding, > > they generally get their facts right and separate facts from > > speculation. > > > > Salon.com is in general a reliable source for in-depth coverage of many > > issues - well worth the $ IMO. > > > > Ray > > > > I used to read Salon.com many years ago, before they started charging...as a > cheapskate, I stopped once they instituted a fee. Maybe I should re-think > that. I stopped reading Salon during the great rmgd Salon boycott (Sarah Vowell had a really dumb article on deadheads) but started again several months ago. You can read for free by watching one of their sponsor's ads. However, I found myself liking it so much I paid the subscription fee. War Room is very good, as is the Daou Report which contains a pretty good summary of what the major right and left leaning bloggers are saying. Audiofile also keeps me informed about some good music. John H. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:49:45 -0700 Subject: Re: Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! From: Steve Lenier in article 1130262288.171034.59350@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, RickNBarbInSD at rickdowling@cox.net wrote on 10/25/05 10:44 AM: > > al haig wrote: > Why didn't yall tell me about 7-7-81???!!! > > > > > We thought you were in control here, General!! > > > Rick > HA! nice one Rick :) back on topic, I love 7/7/89, and like 7/4/81, so it stands to reason I'll like 7/7/81, right? Steve ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: A Conservative viewpoint.... Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:58:28 GMT On 25 Oct 2005 06:33:33 -0700, "Sparky the Wonder Dog" wrote: >Seth. No. I said that Robert's had a particular point of view so that a >person would not be getting a "straight-up" civil rights or libertarian >argument from him, depending on the context. That really was my point. >That was it. I still think your point would have been better made if you attacked specific arguments in his article rather than him personally. >Personally, me, myself, while I have been accused of spouting >"rightwing claptrap" by some people I am very concerned that the Bush >Administration has argued for expanded interpretations of Presidential >authority based on what seems to be a war on an abstraction. At bottom, >me, myself, I don't know what a "War on Terrorism" *is*. I don't even >know what a "war on terrorists" would be, in practice. Yes, I think >there are a lot of concerns about civil liberties. You might see a >thread I started on "what should the United States do with combatants >who don't belong to regular armies"--some of this was discussed before >the thread went down the rabbit-hole of the Israeli-Palestinian >dispute. > >I think police state is a little strong but innovations such as >judgeless warrants or secret courts set off warning bells for me, for >sure. 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