From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #665 Dead-Flames Digest #665, Volume #48 Tue, 25 Oct 05 03:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: what should the United States do with combatants who don't belong to regular armies? ("Sparky the Wonder Dog") Thank You Sister Rosa (Timothy Lynch) Re: Rosa Parks, Thank You and Rest In Peace ("grtflmark") Free 50 cent donation for breast cancer . . . ("k sturm") Re: It's not dead. It's pining for the fjord. ("Dave Gauvin") Re: jams you enjoy other than gdead (fogdog) Re: what should the United States do with combatants who don't belong to regular armies? ("Ray") Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) (Ben) Re: It's not dead. It's pining for the fjord. ("Dave Gauvin") Re: A Conservative viewpoint.... (Seth Jackson) need RRE 7/6/03 info (Steve Lenier) Pssssst! (Dead Content) (Seth Jackson) Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? (Shawn Lucas) Re: Pssssst! (Dead Content) (Shawn Lucas) Re: Pssssst! (Dead Content) ("Dave Kelly") Re: 43 today happy birthday to me!! ("Dave Kelly") Blues for Uncle BoBo ("Dave Kelly") Re: Happy Birthday, Bill Wyman ("Dave Kelly") Re: Porky RIP (Junter 522) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sparky the Wonder Dog" Subject: Re: what should the United States do with combatants who don't belong to regular armies? Date: 24 Oct 2005 21:37:36 -0700 We are off topic anyways: you read it here first: Cheney told top aide of CIA officer: report 32 minutes ago WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff first learned about the CIA officer at the center of a leak investigation in a conversation with Cheney weeks before her identity became public in July 2003, The New York Times reported on Monday. Notes of the conversation between chief of staff Lewis Libby and Cheney on June 12, 2003, put a spotlight on the vice president's possible role in the leak. The account also appears to run counter to Libby's testimony to a federal grand jury that he first learned about the CIA officer, Valerie Plame, from reporters. Patrick Fitzgerald, the federal prosecutor investigating the leak of Plame's identity, is said by lawyers involved in the case to be considering bringing charges against Libby for making false statements and possibly obstruction of justice. ------------------------------ From: Timothy Lynch Subject: Thank You Sister Rosa Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Sister Rosa Parks by The Neville Brothers D. Johnson, C. Moore, C. Neville, C. Neville, Jr., J. Neville L. Neville Irving Music, Inc. obo Neville Music, Inc. Johnson Music; Wm. Claffey & Associates (p) 1989 A&M Records Courtesy of A&M Records under license from Universal Music Enterprises December 1, 1955, our freedom movement came alive. And because of Sister Rosa you know, we dont ride on the back of the bus no more. Sister Rosa Parks was tired one day after a hard day on her job. When all she wanted was a well deserved rest Not a scene from an angry mob. A bus driver said, "Lady, you got to get up cuz a white person wants that seat." But Miss Rosa said, "No, not no more. Im gonna sit here and rest my feet." Chorus Thank you Miss Rosa, you are the spark, You started our freedom movement Thank you Sister Rosa Parks. Thank you Miss Rosa you are the spark, You started our freedom movement Thank you Sister Rosa Parks. Now, the police came without fail And took Sister Rosa off to jail. And 14 dollars was her fine, Brother Martin Luther King knew it was our time. The people of Montgomery sit down to talk It was decided all gods children should walk Until segregation was brought to its knees And we obtain freedom and equality, yeah Chorus Thank you Miss Rosa, you are the spark, You started our freedom movement Thank you Sister Rosa Parks. Well sing it again Thank you Miss Rosa, you are the spark, You started our freedom movement Thank you Sister Rosa Parks. So we dedicate this song to thee for being the symbol of our dignity. Thank Sister Rosa Parks. Chorus 2x ------------------------------ From: "grtflmark" Subject: Re: Rosa Parks, Thank You and Rest In Peace Date: 24 Oct 2005 21:56:09 -0700 .. ------------------------------ From: "k sturm" Subject: Free 50 cent donation for breast cancer . . . Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 05:13:40 GMT http://www.post-itstickupforthecause.com/ For the first 200,000 names, 3M will donate 50 cents (Total Maximum: $100,000) to City of Hope to support breast cancer research, treatment, and education. It's easy and quick and there's still plenty of room for your name. thanks, kathy ------------------------------ From: "Dave Gauvin" Subject: Re: It's not dead. It's pining for the fjord. Date: 24 Oct 2005 22:15:30 -0700 The reporter, Mike Peacock, should probably stay away from sick chickens too. ------------------------------ From: fogdog Subject: Re: jams you enjoy other than gdead Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:34:45 -0400 >> I'll check this out but I was lookin' more at the early 70's for choices. > > > I think Jason Mraz was born in the early 70s, maybe the late 70s Early 70s as in they had prolific releases during that decade. ------------------------------ From: "Ray" Subject: Re: what should the United States do with combatants who don't belong to regular armies? Date: 24 Oct 2005 22:36:48 -0700 Sparky the Wonder Dog wrote: > Ray wrote: > > Before I continue, however, please answer this question that I asked > > of you in my previous post, so that I and everyone can know where > > you are coming from (figuratively, and perhaps literally as well): > > > > Do you put the security interests of the United States before that > > of any other nation, Sparky? > > Ray: the simple answer to your simple question--there may be a longer > one partially transmitted--is that I don't waste breath "debating" true > believers. Sparky, you didn't answer my question, which as you observe is a simple one, at all. Please answer my question (third time): Do you put the security interests of the United States before that of any other nation, Sparky? > Ray is fooling himself if he believes that a drastic reduction in > American aid would linearly result in Israeli acceptance of mass > repatriation of Palestinians Stop insinuating gross distortions -- and flat-out lying about -- my positions, which you have done repeatedly now. I think no such thing. I do however think that if the US were seriously threaten a drastic reduction in 'aid' that Israel would stop expanding settlements in the West Bank - they'd simply have no choice but to comply. And this would be in the best security interests of the United States. (And, FTM, IMO Israel's as well.) > or the surrender of East Jerusalem holy > places or fundamental modification of the consensus referred to in the > poll he is unable to read, not withstanding that it is in English, not > Yiddish or Hebrew. Here's another poll for you: ____________________________ As for removal of settlements, over half of [Israeli] respondents (57 percent) are willing to evacuate most or all of the settlements in exchange for a peace treaty with the Palestinian Authority. This figure combines those that favor evacuation of all the settlements (18 percent) and those that favor evacuation of most of the settlements except for large blocs of settlement close to the Green Line (39 percent). - Haaretz public opinion poll, conducted under the supervision of Professor Camil Fuchs of the Tel Aviv University Department of Statistics. It was held on September 15, 2003. ____________________________ http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=344401&contrassID=2&subContrassID=14&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y > And tell me Ray, are you going to stop making excuses for Islamic > terrorism You are quite a piece of work, aren't you Sparky. How you can make such statements and live with yourself is beyond me. But hey, keep digging your hole. You are merely demonstrating how much you can and will distort the truth and lie to advance your agenda. Ray __________________________ "Recently, the [new, Likud Party-led] Israeli government revoked the construction freeze imposed by the former Labor [Party] government. It is imperative now that Ariel take advantage of this new opportunity. Only a massive Jewish presence in the center of Israel will prevent the creation of a Palestinian state. There is no question that such a state would already have been created had there not been 150,000 Jews living in Judea and Samaria [the Israeli-occupied West Bank." - Ron Nachman, the present and longtime (since 1985) mayor of the large Israeli settlement of Ariel, Fall 1996 http://www.easy-access.com/Ariel/Autumn96/Aut96-MayorMessage.html ------------------------------ From: Ben Subject: Re: drug tests for jobs (NDC) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:44:32 -0700 On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:44:58 -0400, The Lord of Eltingville wrote: >And like with everything else, it comes down to people having to decide >what's acceptable for them. While, IIRC, Neil stated that he'd never >work for a company that would require a drug test, I'd most likely drop >trou and give them a cup if the prospective job was something I really >wanted (outstanding pay, excellent benefits, etc). That's what I'm doing. > >Would I submit to a blood test for the same job? I'd much rather submit to a blood test - much less chance of any residual marijuana showing up there. I officially turned down the job without the drug test today - my BS detector was way in the red on their offer and I wasn't very excited about moving back to Dallas. (way too much depended on their ability to insure that my time would be billable to clients and as such, I took their statement that I would be 90-100% billable with a few grains of salt). They did sound like they wanted me pretty badly though - my skills are somewhat specialized. >Maybe not, but that's >because I really hate needles, not because I have anything to hide or >that I want to make a statement. Perhaps I could have my doctor give me >a valium or two to relax enough for the test, but that'd kind of defeat >the point of taking one in the first place... ;-> I don't think there's much they can do if you have a valid 'script for valium (or anything else) and you test positive for that. ------------------------------ From: "Dave Gauvin" Subject: Re: It's not dead. It's pining for the fjord. Date: 24 Oct 2005 23:02:39 -0700 The reporter, Mike Peacock, should probably stay away from sick chickens too. ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Re: A Conservative viewpoint.... Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:23:41 GMT On 21 Oct 2005 06:16:23 -0700, "Sparky the Wonder Dog" wrote: >Seth, we've been through this. Do you remember that the World Trade >Center was targetted successfully in the 1990's? OK, one more time. It >isn't ad hominem to point out that Roberts distorted his facts. I did >point this out. (did too, I'm rubber you're glue). He distorted the >facts in the Stewart case and did not mention that the "client" was a >convicted killer who plotted to blow up parts of Manhattan and >inspired/directed the people who did blow up parts of the World Trade >Center in the 90's. Plotting to blow up buildings in this country is >not an issue of civil liberties--it really is against the law. A lawyer >cannot help a convicted criminal hook up with buddies on the outside >and resolve disputes when a court--not the government, a judge--goes >out of their way to forbid this contact. This has nothing to do with >civil liberties. > >Yes, there's a WHY to Roberts distortions and double standards (when he >talks about busting "neoconservative" leakers and schmoozers all talk >of civil liberties goes out the windows--they are traitors pure and >simple) But the logical contortions are independently verifiable. I'm not exactly sure what your ultimate point is. By attacking this article, are you defending Bush's position on civil liberties? Do you believe it's OK for the US Government to hold citizens indefinitely without charges? Do you feel there's no justification to concerns that provisions of the Patriot Act bring us closer to a police state? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:39:50 -0700 Subject: need RRE 7/6/03 info From: Steve Lenier I'm finally getting around to putting away a show I got a LONG time ago, and need setlist and info for this show. I'm assuming it's High Sierra. Jeff, did I get this from you, and do you have the info? Or anyone? Thanks, Steve ------------------------------ From: Seth Jackson Subject: Pssssst! (Dead Content) Reply-To: hitmeister .at. mindspring .dot. com Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:49:10 GMT For those unfortunate folks such as myself who failed to order the Fillmore West box set in time, I recently made an interesting discovery. Three of the four shows are still available for download on the net! The only show that's not available is 2/28, which fortunately for me, was the one I already had (and possibly the best of the bunch). To decrease the likelihood that the powers that be will force the removal of these shows, I'm not going to post the location of the files. However, I'll give you a hint. They're at a very popular site known for its Grateful Dead Live recordings. You may also know this place by the frequent posts to this newsgroup inquiring whether the site is up or down. If you can't find the files, then you haven't been reading rmgd long enough. ------------------------------ From: slucas_2@ya_nospam_hoo.com (Shawn Lucas) Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:00:55 GMT On 24 Oct 2005 06:53:18 -0700, "Carlisle" wrote: >I doubt Condoleeza Rice is going anywhere after this gig except to a >cush job at the American Enterprise Institute or perhaps as a >university president. The question for the latter assignment is>>Can >she fund raise because that's all a college head does these days. >Hillary?? Fire in the belly there for sure. The problem is two-fold: >1)She does not have a soothing/likable presence for many out here in >the redneck hinderland (Bill did.) 2)Could Hillary win any state that >John Kerry did not? Could Hillary win Ohio?? Finally, could Hillary >pass the Franklin County(Columbus) Acid test??...Those Buckeye fans are >hard-core, people. They wear red just to watch a football game (I kid >you NOT). Woody Hayes is their idol. Dressing in camouflage and going >hunting in Proctorville just ain't gonna cut it either..She will look >like a bigger freakin' idiot than John Kerry even.. So I don't know. I >just don't know. >Discussion. >cpc > Actually even though Columbus generally sucks (I have an east coast bias...and its too much concrete and not enough green), despite all the red it is one of the few "blue" dominated areas (along with Cleveland) in this lousy "red" state. It is the rest of the state where Hillary would have trouble. ------------------------------ From: slucas_2@ya_nospam_hoo.com (Shawn Lucas) Subject: Re: Pssssst! (Dead Content) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:12:53 GMT On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:49:10 GMT, Seth Jackson wrote: >To decrease the likelihood that the powers that be will force the >removal of these shows, I'm not going to post the location of the >files. However, I'll give you a hint. They're at a very popular site >known for its Grateful Dead Live recordings. You may also know this >place by the frequent posts to this newsgroup inquiring whether the >site is up or down. Here come the black choppers...look out Seth. ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Pssssst! (Dead Content) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:06:22 GMT SHHH! http://www.genosteaks.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: 43 today happy birthday to me!! Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:38:48 GMT "seraphim" wrote in message news:oLf7f.10731$cg.4724@news02.roc.ny... >and some lovin from wifey .... Mike Yeah....happy 46th....whatever.... Look, could you extrapolate on the above quote? Thanks Junior. everyone at RMGD. ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Blues for Uncle BoBo Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:42:08 GMT 10/25/91 - Rock promoter Bill Graham dies in a helicopter crash after a Huey Lewis concert in Concord, Calif. He was 60. ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday, Bill Wyman Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:45:01 GMT "JimK" wrote in message news:bc8rl1tcsogdm9k5vrn1psm1o1hu8crjj3@4ax.com... > Do you believe it? Bill Wyman is SIXTY-NINE (69) years old today! Who > ever thought we'd see 69 year old rockers, even if he is semi-retired? > So who's the oldest active rock star out there these days? > > JimK 10/25/12 - Country singer and comedian, Minnie Pearl is born Sarah Ophelia Colley in Centerville, Tenn. ------------------------------ From: Junter 522 Subject: Re: Porky RIP Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:38:35 GMT ck wrote: > "Dave Kelly" wrote in message > news:5vh6f.5090$BZ5.3743@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > >>"Steve Terry" wrote in message >>news:djc4sp$25k3$1@news.iquest.net... >> >> >>>I'm an Alfalfa man myself. His work on It's A Wonderful Life was >>>brilliant, BRILLIANT I say. >> >>* Steve....you ignorant slut! >> Late period "Alfalfa" is generally dismissed by most credible >> "Our Gang" cognoscenti....he peaked too early by most >> acounts with the classic "Mush & Milk"episode... >> after that, he fell back on past glories... >> Listen, man...if you want to set up a trade for that new >> Dicks Picks '72 philly show, thats fine...when I get that >> from you, I would rather you NOT contact me again!... >> I choose NOT to have correspondence from the >> "Alfalfa" carpetbagger contingent! >> I decided to contact you directly....that lame Grateful Dead >> chat group does NOT need to know our binniss. >> >> Sweetbac Productions >> >> > > > well i know someone will appraciate being reminded that the disc III SBD > portion of 3-28-73 is very much worth the listening.... > http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=12079 > > Personly I dig Robert Blake,now there's a Rascal for ya.Got rid of his wife,get a California trial and now he is back as a Bigger than ever Rascal!!! Peace till Later then anarchy. Gary ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .