From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #656 Dead-Flames Digest #656, Volume #48 Mon, 24 Oct 05 09:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? ("Carlisle") Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? ("Sparky the Wonder Dog") Listen to the new Garcia plays Dylan disc here! ("imsjry") Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? ("Sparky the Wonder Dog") Re: The best stoner movie (NDC) ("imsjry") Re: The best stoner movie (NDC) (band beyond description) Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? (kpnnews@yahoo.com) Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? ("Sparky the Wonder Dog") I'm So Glad ("Schmoe") Re: NFL, week 7 (wyeknot) Re: Bob Wier Ibanez guitar hmmm (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: cnn bungee jumping (The Lord of Eltingville) Re: I'm So Glad (eddie@ccil.org) Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions (John Metzger) Re: I'm So Glad ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Listen to the new Garcia plays Dylan disc here! ("mr rapidan") Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? ("Don Bean") Re: I'm So Glad (JimK) Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? (kpnnews@yahoo.com) Re: Blues for Vassar (ndc) ("pepper") Re: The best stoner movie (NDC) (Mike) Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) (JC Martin) Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions (JC Martin) Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions (JC Martin) Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? (JC Martin) Re: NFL, week 7 ("neurodancer") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:53:18 -0700 I doubt Condoleeza Rice is going anywhere after this gig except to a cush job at the American Enterprise Institute or perhaps as a university president. The question for the latter assignment is>>Can she fund raise because that's all a college head does these days. Hillary?? Fire in the belly there for sure. The problem is two-fold: 1)She does not have a soothing/likable presence for many out here in the redneck hinderland (Bill did.) 2)Could Hillary win any state that John Kerry did not? Could Hillary win Ohio?? Finally, could Hillary pass the Franklin County(Columbus) Acid test??...Those Buckeye fans are hard-core, people. They wear red just to watch a football game (I kid you NOT). Woody Hayes is their idol. Dressing in camouflage and going hunting in Proctorville just ain't gonna cut it either..She will look like a bigger freakin' idiot than John Kerry even.. So I don't know. I just don't know. Discussion. cpc ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:59:09 -0700 brew ziggins wrote: > This isn't in stores yet, is it? I know the original release got pushed > back and Amazon lists it with an 11/22 release date. There have been varying reports regarding when it will be released. 11/22 is the most commonly reported date. I no longer feel guilty about downloading the set from STG a year or two ago. (The sixth disc was never posted there, but is also circulating.) Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: "Sparky the Wonder Dog" Subject: Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? Date: 24 Oct 2005 07:00:15 -0700 I was lucky, I was laid-off, for six months I downloaded and burned most of the shows for the years I wanted from the archive. I don't know how bit-torrent vines work--but that might be another resource for STH. ------------------------------ From: "imsjry" Subject: Listen to the new Garcia plays Dylan disc here! Date: 24 Oct 2005 07:07:36 -0700 This is so sweet! http://music.aol.com/songs/new_releases_full_cds.adp ------------------------------ From: "Sparky the Wonder Dog" Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: 24 Oct 2005 07:09:43 -0700 Hillary can do very well. The very things that bug the more "left-wing" Democrats help her appeal to "red-state" voters and given a race where she is running against a Republican--I don't think enough Dems will opt for Walter's third-party choice to sink her election. I saw Condi on TV and she sounded like someone who does not want to be a politician. ------------------------------ From: "imsjry" Subject: Re: The best stoner movie (NDC) Date: 24 Oct 2005 07:17:13 -0700 Natural Born Killers The Song Remains the Same Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind Grateful Dead Movie The Evil Dead:2 2001 Dazed and Confused Twin Peaks: Season One & Fire Walk with Me Fight Club Lord of the Rings Trilogy Touch of Evil(Orson Wells classic) Pulp Fiction Monty Python & the Holy Grail Apocalypse Now Memento Woodstock Up in Smoke ------------------------------ From: band beyond description <123@456.com> Subject: Re: The best stoner movie (NDC) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:19:05 +0900 On 2005-10-24 22:16:41 +0900, brew ziggins said: > Koyaanisqatsi > Koyaanisqatsi > KOYAANISQATSI > deedle deedle deedle deedle > deedle deedle deedle deedle > (repeat as necessary) ding ding! we have another winnah!!! -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: 24 Oct 2005 07:22:55 -0700 Sparky the Wonder Dog wrote: > Hillary can do very well. The very things that bug the more "left-wing" > Democrats help her appeal to "red-state" voters and given a race where > she is running against a Republican--I don't think enough Dems will opt > for Walter's third-party choice to sink her election. I saw Condi on TV > and she sounded like someone who does not want to be a politician. There is no way Hillary Clinton will be elected President. The Democrats would be commiting suicide to nominate her. Her *only* hope would be backlash against the onslaught of semi-valid rightwing critique. Kurt ------------------------------ From: "Sparky the Wonder Dog" Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: 24 Oct 2005 07:25:56 -0700 Kurt--why do you think she is so unelectable? Too left-wing for the country? Too right-wing for Democrats? ------------------------------ Reply-To: "Schmoe" From: "Schmoe" Subject: I'm So Glad Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:27:23 -0400 Cream, tonight, 'da Garden. ------------------------------ From: wyeknot Subject: Re: NFL, week 7 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:46:30 -0400 Rogues Island's finest wrote: > Yowsah! Some pretty awesome games/endings yesterday, must have driven > the betting folks off the edge... > New England finally goes a week without losing anyone to injury. And they're back in 1st place! Kind of a pathetic division right now. Matt ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: Bob Wier Ibanez guitar hmmm Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:25:56 -0400 volkfolk wrote: > > "pookietooth" wrote in message > news:1130048428.038661.99850@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > seraphim wrote: > >> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/s=electric/search/detail/base_pid/515084/ > >> > >> > >> so I could be an ace too....hmm but not for $5000....... > > > > That is one awesome looking guitar. Wish I had 5k lying around > > somewhere. > > I used to own the non "Cowboy Fancy" version of this guitar, and I can tell > you that NO Ibanez is worth $5000. HRYK... ------------------------------ From: The Lord of Eltingville Subject: Re: cnn bungee jumping Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:27:22 -0400 Rogues Island's finest wrote: > > dwolf wrote: > > Well I guess in the era of bungee jumping, and movies like jackass, this CNN > > reporting with guys standing in the Hurricane, or as CNN likes to call it.. > > the "Cane" is what we get.... It just looks so ridiculous with these guys > > out there.. If the reporter was to blow away, I would think dah.... maybe > > you had it coming.. but you know it's very important that we see real > > reporting from the eye of the storm.. just like the effort these guys make > > with politicians.. lol lol The reporter just said, it's very important > > that NOBODY is outside.. dah!!! > > When the first reporter gets decapitated from a flying piece of the > aluminum siding from Floyd R. Turbo's doublewide, then and only then we > will no longer have to watch these nimrods standing in a fucking > hurricane telling us how important it is for them to be inside. No... Then hurricane updates will become pay-per-view events. ------------------------------ From: eddie@ccil.org Subject: Re: I'm So Glad Date: 24 Oct 2005 07:50:01 -0700 Schmoe wrote: > Cream, tonight, 'da Garden. I'm glad you're glad! :) ------------------------------ From: John Metzger Subject: Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:52:24 GMT brew ziggins wrote: > Thus spake ou8@12.com... > >>"John Metzger" wrote > >> >>Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 > > >>Good review. Thanks. It's ironic that this got released this week since I >>just converted the flac discs of these shows to audio discs though I haven't >>listened to them yet. > > > This isn't in stores yet, is it? I know the original release got pushed > back and Amazon lists it with an 11/22 release date. > It was supposed to come out at the end of Sept (9/27). It was then bumped to 10/25. I noticed yesterday that Amazon had it listed as 11/22, but I haven't heard anything from Legacy regarding the 11/22 date.... ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: I'm So Glad Date: 24 Oct 2005 07:53:37 -0700 e...@ccil.org wrote: > Schmoe wrote: > > Cream, tonight, 'da Garden. > > I'm glad you're glad! :) I'm glad he's glad, you're glad. So glad. Mark ------------------------------ From: "mr rapidan" Subject: Re: Listen to the new Garcia plays Dylan disc here! Date: 24 Oct 2005 07:54:43 -0700 imsjry wrote: > This is so sweet! > > http://music.aol.com/songs/new_releases_full_cds.adp I was/am tempted, but AOL wants to load some Active-X stuff on my system. ------------------------------ From: "Don Bean" Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:12:09 -0400 Condi is a single woman.. It doesnt bother me but that would not work for her even if she did want to run... As for Hillary.... I will vote for her if she runs...Lets hope she or anyone really can bring things to a more domestic focus instead of these bogdown wars overseas that hurt more than they help.. Vietnam was 10 yrs.. lets hope iraq doesnt go on much longer... Im for any politician , any law or anyone who can get our great military home.... Bean "Walter Karmazyn" wrote in message news:3s36b9Fm7gofU1@individual.net... > I'll of course be voting third party again in this case... the rest of ya? > > W > > Rice hones campaign skills but denies running > > > By Saul Hudson Sun Oct 23, 3:24 PM ET > > BIRMINGHAM, Alabama (Reuters) - Does U.S. Secretary of State > Condoleezza Rice want to be president? Even a young girl at a photo > opportunity with Rice in her former elementary school wanted the United > States' most prominent black Republican to answer the question. > > Rice, whose wide smile had been fixed on her face as the 10- and > 11-year-olds asked her about growing up in the segregated South and > playing the piano, furrowed her brow and narrowed her eyes for an > uncomfortable moment. > > Sitting on a knee-high chair in front of shelves of books and teddy > bears -- and next to the Stars-and-Stripes flag brought in for the > occasion by her staff -- she shot a nervous look at the media invited to > observe a three-day tour of her home state. > > Rice recovered her composure, laughed and turned on the charm fit for a > campaign trail, telling the pony-tailed, black girls from Brunetta C. Hill > school in Birmingham that they could be president in a nation that has had > neither a woman nor a black commander-in-chief. > > "I don't want to run for office. I like what I'm doing," the > highest-ranking black woman in U.S. government history said. > > The reply was a variation of a denial -- that she was not testing the > waters for a 2008 presidential bid -- which Rice was obliged to make > repeatedly on a trip saturated in public relations and politics that ended > on Sunday. > > Former secretaries of state made no such extensive domestic tours and Rice > usually travels outside Washington only to deliver policy speeches in > one-day outings. > > Rice's aides said the weekend trip with Britain's Foreign Secretary Jack > Straw as her guest helped explain to Americans how diplomacy works. > > But voters in Republican Alabama were not buying it: a foreign policy > chief with tasks such as stopping Iraq from imploding in civil war did not > take time out for a hometown tour unless she was building political > capital, they said. > > At a University of Alabama football game, where Rice waved and smiled like > a rock star in the center of the field to more than 80,000 screaming fans, > supporters in the home team's crimson colors debated when, not whether, > she would run. > > "She's just here driving up votes for office," Evelyn Casey said, noting > how the Bush administration needed to improve its reputation in the South > after criticism of its response to Hurricane Katrina. > > Bobby Cole interrupted his fellow fan as they shared beers and burgers > before the game to echo what some political analysts say could be Rice's > more realistic ambition in 2008 -- to be vice president. > > "She isn't ready for president yet," he said. > > Straw was along simply to "help one of his buddies with her political > campaign," Bob Thomas added. > > DRAFT CONDI > > As Rice's motorcade of black SUVs with tinted windows sped past, admirers > shouted "2008" and "Tell her to run for president." > > That reflected sentiment found not just in Alabama but on the Internet > too, where there is a "Draft Condi" campaign offering bumper stickers, > T-shirts and baseball caps to "make it happen" in 2008. > > Several white men are favorites to win the Republican nomination for 2008. > > But Rice often refers to her color and could be a better contender against > Sen. Hillary Clinton, who is many Democrats' choice to win back the White > House, because of her popularity among blacks and women. > > "It's Hillary's candidacy that makes Condi's necessary and, therefore, > likely," Dick Morris a political consultant in the Clinton administration > said in excerpts of his new book "Condi vs. Hillary." > > In Birmingham, speakers at a ceremony to remember the racist killing of > four schoolgirls at a segregated church, hailed Alabama's favorite > daughter as the girl who out-slugged the boys in street softball and grew > up to be the most powerful woman in the world. > > Rice ended the day surprisingly ambiguous about her political ambitions. > > In an interview with the city's newspaper, The Birmingham News, Rice was > again asked about running and she playfully left the door open: "Now > there's a novel idea," she said. ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: I'm So Glad Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:14:09 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On 24 Oct 2005 07:53:37 -0700, "Rogues Island's finest" wrote: > >e...@ccil.org wrote: >> Schmoe wrote: >> > Cream, tonight, 'da Garden. >> >> I'm glad you're glad! :) > >I'm glad he's glad, you're glad. So glad. > >Mark I'm glad all over. (DC5) JimK ------------------------------ From: kpnnews@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: 24 Oct 2005 08:20:08 -0700 Sparky the Wonder Dog wrote: > Kurt--why do you think she is so unelectable? Too left-wing for the > country? Too right-wing for Democrats? She comes off as a coniving conceited bitch. She carpetbagged her way to a Senate seat. While her recent presence has been more stately, I think she has too many skeletons to be elected. It's not really her politics which I think are leftwing malleable, I think it is her. She is simply too divisive. People either love her or hate her, and those who hate her, hate those who love her and vice versa. GWB can be described as silver-spoon-in-mouth born again ex-cokehead. A lot of folks were repulsed by his almost predestined ascendency to the Presidency. Hillary would be worse in that regard. She'd shoot Chelsea dead on national tv to get elected, or at least that's how she comes across. I am just babbling now, but hopefully you get my drift. Kurt ------------------------------ From: "pepper" Subject: Re: Blues for Vassar (ndc) Date: 24 Oct 2005 08:22:07 -0700 I saw the DG Quintet in Maryland on the 10/21, my first time, and was blown away. The last time I saw this level of precision+artistry in a performance was Bela Fleck a couple of years ago. The Blues for Vasser was very moving, and the Shady Grove with "space" break in the middle was a definite nod to jerry. I saw some taping going on that night, and would love to get a copy if available! -michael Ray wrote: > Roxanne McDaniel wrote: > > This was posted on another message board, but the show sounded amazing! So > > I was wondering if any RMDG'er in SF made it to the show. > > ********************* > > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:55:19 -0000 > > From: "Mike Zimmer" > > Subject: Blues for Vassar > > > > Caught the David Grisman Bluegrass Experience last Saturday at the 12 > > Galaxies in San Francisco.....hot, hot, HOT! Front and center > > swillin' the red tail ales all night...an experience all right..all > > local players I believe with him- Keith Little on Banjo, his son Sam > > on bass, and a couple fiddle guys I don't recall the names of, but > > have seen them play with Peter Rowan before. "Salty Dawg", "Til the > > End of the World Goes Round", a ton of more obscure stuff out of the > > Stanley Brothers/Jimmy Martin/Big Mon/Jim & Jesse songbooks (can't > > remember it all). Encore was a newly renamed "Blues for > > Vassar"...beautiful sorrow...tears streaming down my face...thank you > > Dawg! > > I didn't see the show last week, but the day after Vassar passed on I > caught Dawg at the Freight and Salvage in Berkeley where he debuted > "Blues for Vassar". (IIRC it was the debut, anyway.) Before he played > the song Grisman explained that at a gig with Vassar and Tony Rice in > December he and Vassar played together for the last time, and that > after that gig he penned "Blues for Vassar" - a beautiful and moving > tune. > > Ray ------------------------------ Subject: Re: The best stoner movie (NDC) From: Mike Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:22:18 GMT band beyond description <123@456.com> wrote in news:3rv4vrFlhikuU1 @individual.net: > what do you like to watch when you're "in the zone?" > > me? "The Three Stooges DVD 12-Pack." "The Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension." John Bigbooteh ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:23:04 GMT Carlisle wrote: > Richard Morris wrote: > >>"Carlisle" wrote in message >>news:1130074508.988782.166000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >>snip >> >> >>>Hey R, >>> Mkay. >>>If any laws were broken even if there is no way that national security >>>and/or anyone's personal safety was at stake, then due punishment >>>should be applied. The perps should take their lumps. The rule of law >>>is the rule of law. How's that for reasonin' y'all?! >>>peace & awe, >>>Carlisle >>> >> >>Okay, now that is just half the pie though. >> >>The other half is, how do you feel about an administration that would use >>these kind of tactics, which appear to be unlawful (we will know after the >>jury makes a decision), in order to discredit someone who was critical of >>their propoganda machine? >> >>Remember, this was about yellow cake uranium, weapons of mass destruction, >>and the reasons we invaded Iraq. Remember that? >> >>Reason that, please. >> >>Richard > > > Well Richard since you want to make me out to be the poster child for > the "vast right-wing conspiracy", I'll answer like this. They got > arrogant and played hardball. It's not just republicans or > conservatives that this happens to. "Power corrupts, absolute power > corrupts absolutely."...You want a scandle?! You're getting it with the > weekly casualty lists that come back from Iraq. Did you remember that I > was against our invasion and occupation of Iraq?? IMHO, it was/is not > in our national interest and it sets a bad precedent. Howard Dean > rightly criticized both Kerry and Edwards for voting to give the "Bush > propaganda machine" the authorization to do this. No, Dean was playing politics at the time, and frankly he's just another in a long line of political opportunists. Both Kerry and Edwards voted to give the President of the U.S. the ability to take out Saddam IF he did not comply with UN inspections and under the conditions put forth by a hyperbolic and lying executive branch. Let's not resort to Limbaugh spin again. All parties abuse power. But very few administrations create a national security red alert out of thin air and use the resulting fear created to launch an occupation of foreign territory. And to blame Democrats who voted to give Bush the authority to take out Saddam under the conditions I gave above (I would have voted the same way myself given the circumstances)? Come on now. Wrong target. There's no political moral equivalency here. There are vast degrees of separation between the neo-cons and the rest of the politicians out there. -JC ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:27:34 GMT Bill wrote: > Pat Buzby wrote > > >>Bill wrote: >> >> >>>I'm interested to hear how the playing of Michael Henderson (bass) and > > Keith > >>>Jarrett (electric piano) on these December, 1970 shows compares to that > > of > >>>Dave Holland (bass) and Chick Corea (electric piano) respectively on the >>>March, 1970 shows. >> >>To make a long story short, swapping Holland for Henderson led to a lot >>more funk and less jazz in Miles's music. >> >>Pat Buzby >>Chicago, IL > > > Well though I wouldn't call Holland's bass playing with Miles band in 1970 > exactly "funky," I wouldn't call it "jazzy" either. >It most definitely was > pretty damn ferocious. It's some of the best bass playing I've heard - and > slightly similar in some ways to Phil's playing on some of the epic '74 Dead > jams (I did say "slightly"). Ohhhh Pat, please don't..... -JC ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:30:09 GMT John Metzger wrote: > > > pbuzby2002@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Bill wrote: >> >> >>> I'm interested to hear how the playing of Michael Henderson (bass) >>> and Keith >>> Jarrett (electric piano) on these December, 1970 shows compares to >>> that of >>> Dave Holland (bass) and Chick Corea (electric piano) respectively on the >>> March, 1970 shows. >> >> >> >> To make a long story short, swapping Holland for Henderson led to a lot >> more funk and less jazz in Miles's music. >> > > > I agree with the first half of your statement; I don't agree with the > latter half -- at least not at this point of the collaboration between > Henderson and Davis. There's a lot of jazz to be found on The Cellar > Door Sessions, even as it moves further away from "tradition." No, but Pat makes the logical point. Holland is probably one of the top 5 jazz bassists in the musical form's history. Henderson isn't much a jazz player at all. And comparing Holland to Lesh is just plain dumb. -JC ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 Date: 24 Oct 2005 08:31:03 -0700 JC Martin wrote: > Ohhhh Pat, please don't..... Please don't what? Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ From: JC Martin Subject: Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:33:47 GMT Tim Ujin wrote: > SillyThingsHappen@hotmail.com wrote: > >>I am breaching cosmic karma and royalty accountant paychecks here, but >>is it out of the question to ask for a B+P on the 10 CD set of the >>Fillmore '69 shows? The thing sold out before I knew it was for sale. >>Now on various auctions sites, the set is going for over $30 a disc at >>times! Is this the way Jerry would want it? > > > Well, Jerry's been dead for more than 10 years, so I don't think that > is really a relevant question. You should be asking yourself "what way > would the current copyright holders want it?" I think the answer to > that one is quite clear. Anything out of print is fair game IMO. Bootlegs are one of the ways to get record companies to release what they horde. -JC ------------------------------ From: "neurodancer" Subject: Re: NFL, week 7 Date: 24 Oct 2005 08:35:32 -0700 wyeknot wrote: > Rogues Island's finest wrote: > > Yowsah! Some pretty awesome games/endings yesterday, must have driven > > the betting folks off the edge... > > > New England finally goes a week without losing anyone to injury. > > And they're back in 1st place! Kind of a pathetic division right now. > > Matt The NFC East, which was pathetic last year, is surprising me. Even my 'Skins don't suck (yet). Now they start playing each other though. And I agree, it was an exciting week, down to the geat WS game last night ND ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .