From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #655 Dead-Flames Digest #655, Volume #48 Mon, 24 Oct 05 07:00:02 PDT Contents: Condi v Hillary 2008? (Walter Karmazyn) Re: The best stoner movie (NDC) (JimK) Re: ANyone now why The Dead didn't tour last Spring or Summer? ("dearmeyer®") Re: ANyone now why The Dead didn't tour last Spring or Summer? (Ben) Re: What is a good "B" rated movie? (naught@nil.com) Re: ANyone now why The Dead didn't tour last Spring or Summer? ("Olompali4") Re: STS9 in Worcester MA 10-22-05 ("Nick's Picks") Re: Bob Wier Ibanez guitar hmmm ("volkfolk") Re: Bob Wier Ibanez guitar hmmm ("volkfolk") cnn bungee jumping ("dwolf") That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? (SillyThingsHappen@hotmail.com) Re: cnn bungee jumping ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Bob Wier Ibanez guitar hmmm ("Dylanstubs") Ocktoberfest jam!!!!! ("volkfolk") Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? ("Tim Ujin") NFL, week 7 ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: Ocktoberfest jam!!!!! ("Rogues Island's finest") Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? ("scarletbgonias@hotmail.com") Re: Bob Wier Ibanez guitar hmmm ("minnehaha") Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? (SillyThingsHappen@hotmail.com) Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? (SillyThingsHappen@hotmail.com) Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? ("Olompali4") Re: The best stoner movie (NDC) (brew ziggins) Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 (brew ziggins) Re: what should the United States do with combatants who don't belong to regular armies? ("Sparky the Wonder Dog") Re: who buys this? ("Sparky the Wonder Dog") Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? ("Sparky the Wonder Dog") If payment is accepted for pre-orders isn't that an interest free loan? ("Sparky the Wonder Dog") Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? ("Dylanstubs") Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? ("Carlisle") Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 (pbuzby2002@yahoo.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Walter Karmazyn Subject: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:28:53 -0700 I'll of course be voting third party again in this case... the rest of ya? W Rice hones campaign skills but denies running By Saul Hudson Sun Oct 23, 3:24 PM ET BIRMINGHAM, Alabama (Reuters) - Does U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice want to be president? Even a young girl at a photo opportunity with Rice in her former elementary school wanted the United States' most prominent black Republican to answer the question. Rice, whose wide smile had been fixed on her face as the 10- and 11-year-olds asked her about growing up in the segregated South and playing the piano, furrowed her brow and narrowed her eyes for an uncomfortable moment. Sitting on a knee-high chair in front of shelves of books and teddy bears -- and next to the Stars-and-Stripes flag brought in for the occasion by her staff -- she shot a nervous look at the media invited to observe a three-day tour of her home state. Rice recovered her composure, laughed and turned on the charm fit for a campaign trail, telling the pony-tailed, black girls from Brunetta C. Hill school in Birmingham that they could be president in a nation that has had neither a woman nor a black commander-in-chief. "I don't want to run for office. I like what I'm doing," the highest-ranking black woman in U.S. government history said. The reply was a variation of a denial -- that she was not testing the waters for a 2008 presidential bid -- which Rice was obliged to make repeatedly on a trip saturated in public relations and politics that ended on Sunday. Former secretaries of state made no such extensive domestic tours and Rice usually travels outside Washington only to deliver policy speeches in one-day outings. Rice's aides said the weekend trip with Britain's Foreign Secretary Jack Straw as her guest helped explain to Americans how diplomacy works. But voters in Republican Alabama were not buying it: a foreign policy chief with tasks such as stopping Iraq from imploding in civil war did not take time out for a hometown tour unless she was building political capital, they said. At a University of Alabama football game, where Rice waved and smiled like a rock star in the center of the field to more than 80,000 screaming fans, supporters in the home team's crimson colors debated when, not whether, she would run. "She's just here driving up votes for office," Evelyn Casey said, noting how the Bush administration needed to improve its reputation in the South after criticism of its response to Hurricane Katrina. Bobby Cole interrupted his fellow fan as they shared beers and burgers before the game to echo what some political analysts say could be Rice's more realistic ambition in 2008 -- to be vice president. "She isn't ready for president yet," he said. Straw was along simply to "help one of his buddies with her political campaign," Bob Thomas added. DRAFT CONDI As Rice's motorcade of black SUVs with tinted windows sped past, admirers shouted "2008" and "Tell her to run for president." That reflected sentiment found not just in Alabama but on the Internet too, where there is a "Draft Condi" campaign offering bumper stickers, T-shirts and baseball caps to "make it happen" in 2008. Several white men are favorites to win the Republican nomination for 2008. But Rice often refers to her color and could be a better contender against Sen. Hillary Clinton, who is many Democrats' choice to win back the White House, because of her popularity among blacks and women. "It's Hillary's candidacy that makes Condi's necessary and, therefore, likely," Dick Morris a political consultant in the Clinton administration said in excerpts of his new book "Condi vs. Hillary." In Birmingham, speakers at a ceremony to remember the racist killing of four schoolgirls at a segregated church, hailed Alabama's favorite daughter as the girl who out-slugged the boys in street softball and grew up to be the most powerful woman in the world. Rice ended the day surprisingly ambiguous about her political ambitions. In an interview with the city's newspaper, The Birmingham News, Rice was again asked about running and she playfully left the door open: "Now there's a novel idea," she said. ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: The best stoner movie (NDC) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:35:05 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On 23 Oct 2005 20:56:38 -0700, "Olompali4" wrote: >> obviously------YELLOW SUBMARINE > >Ding ding ding >We have a WINNAH! Wait just a minute, here. What about the Grateful Dead Movie? JimK ------------------------------ From: "dearmeyer®" Subject: Re: ANyone now why The Dead didn't tour last Spring or Summer? Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:16:07 -0500 > > HRYK..unfortunately. > > No he's not - at least if the show I saw last year from Marysville, CA is > any indication. Any band that has Phil on bass, and Mickey and Bill > pounding away on drums doing Grateful Dead songs is not going to suck IMO. > Before the show, I wasn't sure if they were going to be good but they most > definitely were bigtime (as Dick Cheney would say) on that day. > > Bill > He is half right and so are you, none of them want to play with Bobby now, including Phil. > ------------------------------ From: Ben Subject: Re: ANyone now why The Dead didn't tour last Spring or Summer? Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 00:26:27 -0700 On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:16:07 -0500, "dearmeyer®" wrote: >He is half right and so are you, none of them want to play with Bobby now, >including Phil. >> What's up with that - does Weir have some sort of problem - manifest by the infamous Ratdog show in SD last February or so? ------------------------------ From: naught@nil.com Subject: Re: What is a good "B" rated movie? Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:23:29 +0000 (UTC) RickNBarbInSD wrote: > > naught@nil.com wrote: >> My favorite: The Man With the X-Ray Eyes with Ray Milland. > > > YOU called it!!!! YOU win the prize!!!! What a classic "B" flick!!! > > > > Rick > My favorite! I even wrote a tune about it for my band to do: http://triplefret.com/mp3/10-14-05-xray.mp3 ------------------------------ From: "Olompali4" Subject: Re: ANyone now why The Dead didn't tour last Spring or Summer? Date: 24 Oct 2005 04:22:34 -0700 >none of them want to play with Bobby now, Bill, Hart and Weir just played together at the Comes a Time benefit. Lesh couldn't make the time. ------------------------------ From: "Nick's Picks" Subject: Re: STS9 in Worcester MA 10-22-05 Date: 24 Oct 2005 04:51:24 -0700 there is an mp3 in here "crystal instrument" www.nickspicks.com/images/STS9/sts9.mp3 its 10mb, VBR mp3. ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Bob Wier Ibanez guitar hmmm Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:00:48 -0400 "pookietooth" wrote in message news:1130048428.038661.99850@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > seraphim wrote: >> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/s=electric/search/detail/base_pid/515084/ >> >> >> so I could be an ace too....hmm but not for $5000....... > > That is one awesome looking guitar. Wish I had 5k lying around > somewhere. I used to own the non "Cowboy Fancy" version of this guitar, and I can tell you that NO Ibanez is worth $5000. Scot ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Re: Bob Wier Ibanez guitar hmmm Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:03:41 -0400 "marklaw" wrote in message news:1130115472.401122.83340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > you'd think that bobby ace would endorse this product by actually > playing it instead of his stock telecasters. > Bob did play Ibanez.........30 years ago, which is when that guitar was designed and built. He did actually play that guitar, and did help design it Scot ------------------------------ From: "dwolf" Subject: cnn bungee jumping Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:12:16 -0400 Well I guess in the era of bungee jumping, and movies like jackass, this CNN reporting with guys standing in the Hurricane, or as CNN likes to call it.. the "Cane" is what we get.... It just looks so ridiculous with these guys out there.. If the reporter was to blow away, I would think dah.... maybe you had it coming.. but you know it's very important that we see real reporting from the eye of the storm.. just like the effort these guys make with politicians.. lol lol The reporter just said, it's very important that NOBODY is outside.. dah!!! ------------------------------ From: SillyThingsHappen@hotmail.com Subject: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? Date: 24 Oct 2005 05:16:28 -0700 I am breaching cosmic karma and royalty accountant paychecks here, but is it out of the question to ask for a B+P on the 10 CD set of the Fillmore '69 shows? The thing sold out before I knew it was for sale. Now on various auctions sites, the set is going for over $30 a disc at times! Is this the way Jerry would want it? ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: cnn bungee jumping Date: 24 Oct 2005 05:17:43 -0700 dwolf wrote: > Well I guess in the era of bungee jumping, and movies like jackass, this CNN > reporting with guys standing in the Hurricane, or as CNN likes to call it.. > the "Cane" is what we get.... It just looks so ridiculous with these guys > out there.. If the reporter was to blow away, I would think dah.... maybe > you had it coming.. but you know it's very important that we see real > reporting from the eye of the storm.. just like the effort these guys make > with politicians.. lol lol The reporter just said, it's very important > that NOBODY is outside.. dah!!! When the first reporter gets decapitated from a flying piece of the aluminum siding from Floyd R. Turbo's doublewide, then and only then we will no longer have to watch these nimrods standing in a fucking hurricane telling us how important it is for them to be inside. Mark ------------------------------ From: "Dylanstubs" Subject: Re: Bob Wier Ibanez guitar hmmm Date: 24 Oct 2005 05:25:08 -0700 > seraphim wrote: > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/s=electric/search/detail/base_pid/515084/ > > > so I could be an ace too....hmm but not for $5000....... A lot of money to hang a piece of furniture around your neck. ------------------------------ From: "volkfolk" Subject: Ocktoberfest jam!!!!! Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:35:29 -0400 This past Saturday night, I had the distinct pleasure of finally having the opportunity to make music with our own Iron Muffin. The Place: Neil X's Octoberfest party (More specificly the room where green leave substances were turned into carbon molecules Boy did I (we?) have fun!!!!!!! I will leave it to others to determine the quality of the music, but I sure did have a good time. Snorkey is one hell of a great guy. It was a pleasure to finally meet him. More details to follow. Scot ------------------------------ From: "Tim Ujin" Subject: Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? Date: 24 Oct 2005 05:40:46 -0700 SillyThingsHappen@hotmail.com wrote: > I am breaching cosmic karma and royalty accountant paychecks here, but > is it out of the question to ask for a B+P on the 10 CD set of the > Fillmore '69 shows? The thing sold out before I knew it was for sale. > Now on various auctions sites, the set is going for over $30 a disc at > times! Is this the way Jerry would want it? Well, Jerry's been dead for more than 10 years, so I don't think that is really a relevant question. You should be asking yourself "what way would the current copyright holders want it?" I think the answer to that one is quite clear. ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: NFL, week 7 Date: 24 Oct 2005 05:41:40 -0700 Yowsah! Some pretty awesome games/endings yesterday, must have driven the betting folks off the edge... San Diego about to win and a blocked field goal-return kills 'em. Drew Bledsoe fucks up royally and hands the game to Seattle. Eli to Toomah! to win it at the end for the Gints. The Ship of Fools, led by "Dead Man Walking" Tice, manages to win one against Green Bay, who will be playing the equipment manager next week because everyone else is hurt. Pittsburgh puts a big old STFU on Cincy and their big mouth Chad Johnson. Indy manages to struggle to victory against another quality (0-6) opponent. New England finally goes a week without losing anyone to injury. Kansas City flys into Miami for a few hours, and wins. Good stuff. Mark ------------------------------ From: "Rogues Island's finest" Subject: Re: Ocktoberfest jam!!!!! Date: 24 Oct 2005 05:44:49 -0700 volkfolk wrote: > This past Saturday night, I had the distinct pleasure of finally having the > opportunity to make music with our own Iron Muffin. > > The Place: Neil X's Octoberfest party (More specificly the room where green > leave substances were turned into carbon molecules > > Boy did I (we?) have fun!!!!!!! > > I will leave it to others to determine the quality of the music, but I sure > did have a good time. Snorkey is one hell of a great guy. It was a pleasure > to finally meet him. > > More details to follow. I'm so bummed that I wasn't able to attend this soiree and meet the Muffin man (and many others) for myself, but family obligations prevented me from doing the Jamaica Plain shuffle....damn! Did Neil end up naked and passed out in the living room again? Mark ------------------------------ From: "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:01:14 -0700 Forgive me for being a bit dense as it is Monday morning, but how can these items be up for auction as it hasn't even been released yet? Theresa ------------------------------ From: "minnehaha" Subject: Re: Bob Wier Ibanez guitar hmmm Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:12:29 -0400 "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:9cSdnY3bqpXYhMHeRVn-vQ@comcast.com... > > "minnehaha" wrote in message > news:djgsjk$d9rn$1@netnews.upenn.edu... >> >>> " The explanation for the multitude of switches on the recreation also >>> comes >>> from what Bob Weir wanted in the Cowboy Fancy models. Said Jeff >>> Hasselberger in an online reply as to the origins of the guitar: "We >>> made a couple of the 'cowboy' models with a number of switching combos >>> that were constantly going under the surgeon's soldering iron. >>> Basically, Bob wanted as much flexibility of pickup selection as we >>> could deliver. So he had a choice of single coils, series humbuckers, >>> parallel humbuckers, phase reversals and so on. We also used the >>> standard Artist EQ system on at least one of them." >>> >>> And the irony is that he was often so low in the mix as to be virtually >>> undetectable. ;) >>> >>> R. >> >> The best rhythm guitarist is the one you never hear. Think about that >> one. > > Having played in bands for the last 30 or so years, I don't have to. For > some instruments, they are best noticed only in their absence. Like > rhythm guitar ... ya don't want to have them be to prominent. So I agree > with you in theory. However, you ought to be able to pick them out of the > mix if you know what to listen for, and Weir was often simply too low for > my taste. > > R. Different strokes. Whenever I listen for him, I hear him fine. And I really like what he's doing. ------------------------------ From: SillyThingsHappen@hotmail.com Subject: Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:13:21 -0700 Folks are selling their "right" to the pre-order sorta. Googleize Ebay auctions for 'Fillmore Grateful Dead' and you will see. Oy vey! ------------------------------ From: SillyThingsHappen@hotmail.com Subject: Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:15:20 -0700 OK, who do I send the copyright royalty check to? ------------------------------ From: "Olompali4" Subject: Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:15:44 -0700 > I am breaching cosmic karma and royalty accountant paychecks here, but > is it out of the question to ask for a B+P on the 10 CD set of the > Fillmore '69 shows? This is how all of the sbds on the archve will get pulled. ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: The best stoner movie (NDC) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:16:41 -0400 Koyaanisqatsi Koyaanisqatsi KOYAANISQATSI deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle (repeat as necessary) -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: brew ziggins Subject: Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:20:01 -0400 Thus spake ou8@12.com... > > "John Metzger" wrote > > > Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 > > Good review. Thanks. It's ironic that this got released this week since I > just converted the flac discs of these shows to audio discs though I haven't > listened to them yet. This isn't in stores yet, is it? I know the original release got pushed back and Amazon lists it with an 11/22 release date. -- bruce higgins ithaca ny most of the day, we were at the machinery ------------------------------ From: "Sparky the Wonder Dog" Subject: Re: what should the United States do with combatants who don't belong to regular armies? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:27:17 -0700 grt: Barr is one man. Did I miss the part where he says it is OK to strip prisoners? If POWs are only required to give certain information then the Geneva Convention most certainly forbids coercion used in order to get more. I also do not believe your interpretation that when a convention says a POW does not need to give more information than x y or z that interrogation of any kind can continue, according to the rules, when the POW gives that information and indicates they don't wish to give more. You think these ideas are bullshit, works for me. ------------------------------ From: "Sparky the Wonder Dog" Subject: Re: who buys this? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:31:22 -0700 bbd: my faux paux if such it be. So, what have you bought from GMD? Anything? Did you ever have a GD t-shirt? ------------------------------ From: "Sparky the Wonder Dog" Subject: Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:37:10 -0700 STH: Why don't you suggest a trade, at least for sbds that were already downloaded from the archive? A lot of people have these. ------------------------------ From: "Sparky the Wonder Dog" Subject: If payment is accepted for pre-orders isn't that an interest free loan? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:42:23 -0700 If GDM or whomever takes your money for a pre-order and then gives you the product one or two months later isn't that an interest-free loan from you to them? 5,000 x $30 or so dollars isn't a huge amount--but it's a nice piece of change. I don't get this whole pre-order thing. ------------------------------ From: "Dylanstubs" Subject: Re: That 10 CD Fillmore boxset is soldout, so now what? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:46:32 -0700 I was thinking about this the other night as I grabbed the great 4/28/71 SBD from Archive. These things will continue to disappear, no doubt. ------------------------------ From: "Carlisle" Subject: Re: Condi v Hillary 2008? Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:53:18 -0700 I doubt Condoleeza Rice is going anywhere after this gig except to a cush job at the American Enterprise Institute or perhaps as a university president. The question for the latter assignment is>>Can she fund raise because that's all a college head does these days. Hillary?? Fire in the belly there for sure. The problem is two-fold: 1)She does not have a soothing/likable presence for many out here in the redneck hinderland (Bill did.) 2)Could Hillary win any state that John Kerry did not? Could Hillary win Ohio?? Finally, could Hillary pass the Franklin County(Columbus) Acid test??...Those Buckeye fans are hard-core, people. They wear red just to watch a football game (I kid you NOT). Woody Hayes is their idol. Dressing in camouflage and going hunting in Proctorville just ain't gonna cut it either..She will look like a bigger freakin' idiot than John Kerry even.. So I don't know. I just don't know. Discussion. cpc ------------------------------ From: pbuzby2002@yahoo.com Subject: Re: (NDC) Album/Box Set Review - Miles Davis - The Cellar Door Sessions 1970 Date: 24 Oct 2005 06:59:09 -0700 brew ziggins wrote: > This isn't in stores yet, is it? I know the original release got pushed > back and Amazon lists it with an 11/22 release date. There have been varying reports regarding when it will be released. 11/22 is the most commonly reported date. I no longer feel guilty about downloading the set from STG a year or two ago. (The sixth disc was never posted there, but is also circulating.) Pat Buzby Chicago, IL ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows: Internet: dead-flames-request@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames-request%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames-request You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these addresses: Internet: dead-flames@gdead.berkeley.edu Bitnet: dead-flames%gdead.berkeley.edu@ucbcmsa Uucp: ...!{ucbvax,uunet}!gdead.berkeley.edu!dead-flames End of Dead-Flames Digest ****************************** .