From: Digestifier To: Subject: Dead-Flames Digest #638 Dead-Flames Digest #638, Volume #48 Fri, 21 Oct 05 19:00:01 PDT Contents: Re: 2/23/71 on bt.etree.org ("Tony & Beth") Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) ("scarletbgonias@hotmail.com") Re: 2/23/71 on bt.etree.org ("Richard Morris") Re: 2/23/71 on bt.etree.org ("Tony & Beth") Re: 2/23/71 on bt.etree.org ("Dave Kelly") SAT Vegoose Stadium tic for sale (snapperjackson@gmail.com) Re: What is a good "B" rated movie? (naught@nil.com) Re: Porky RIP ("Steve Terry") Re: yet another great spot for downloads... ("band beyond description") Jerry does Bob Dylan Permavine+, noB noP (bigchuck51@aol.com) Re: The Best Hangover Movie ("band beyond description") Re: I feel weirded out this morning. ("ck") Re: GDTSTOO - New Year's with Phil Lesh and Friends. ("Bzl.") Re: Republicans hate you and want you dead: the 10/20/05 edition (NDC) (JimK) Re: 2/23/71 on bt.etree.org (bigchuck51@aol.com) Re: Republicans hate you and want you dead: the 10/20/05 edition (NDC) (JimK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony & Beth" Subject: Re: 2/23/71 on bt.etree.org Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:39:10 GMT Now that was quick!! Thanks, Richard. I owe you twice now. Looks like that 72 I was gonna pass on thanks to you just got a buddy. Much, much, and much thank you, Richard. I'm very good in English. NFA, Tony "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:UvednRQOb5umFMTenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > Tony, I have already downloaded it and can send it to you on the same disc > as the 1972 show that I am gonna send you this weekend. > > R. > > > "Tony & Beth" wrote in message > news:qLf6f.1260$c4.1193@trndny03... >>I was wondering if anyone has picked this up and would be willing to >>please b/p this show for me. >> >> I would appreciate anyone's help, as it's not on the archive (I don't >> know why). >> >> Please contact me via email. You will need to alter my email address a >> bit. >> >> Thank you for any help. >> >> NFA, >> Tony >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ From: "scarletbgonias@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: White House Indictment vigil(NDC) Date: 21 Oct 2005 17:45:20 -0700 I read this over on the Think Progress blog (the link below is from the original post on AlterNet) and, while skeptical, it's very interesting. It very well could be fiction, but an interesting read none the less. Hopefully we'll know something by the end of next week when the Grand Jury is dismissed. Theresa ======================================= http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/frel/27082/ I just got this e-mail from a Democratic House member's staffer with tons of good dirt on the Plame investigation. I'm reprinting it whole cloth to share all, and show that while these Hill staffers are well-informed, they sure could use some capitalization classes. Among the things I hadn't seen before: -Fred Flights, an assistant to John Bolton, is a named name who could be indicted. -Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham have been suggested as replacements for Dick Cheney. -Colin Powell told John McCain he showed the infamous memo with Plame's identity on it two just two people; Dick Cheney and George Bush. -Fitzgerald is looking at the precedent set from the indictment of Tricky Dick's veep Spiro Agnew to pursue against Cheney. That's red meat folks. Text of the e-mail: below, some extremely sensitive information about the impending conclusion of the valerie plame investigations. the sources include two senior members of senate and key staffers; counsel for individuals that have been called before the grand jury; and two journalists taking a lead position in investigating the case. the following represents a composite of the information from those sources. plamegate coming to conclusion. the investigation has focused mostly closely on vice president cheney and his staff, as well as us ambassador to the un (and former undersecretary of state for arms control) john bolton and his staff. we are told that eight indictments have already prepared, with the possibility of another ten. these indictments include senior white house staff, most notably vice president cheney's chief of staff scooter libby, fred flights (special assistant to john bolton), and--very surprisingly--national security adviser steve hadley. apparently, libby and hadley have both been told by their lawyers to expect indictments. the indictment of senior bush political advisor karl rove seems highly probable. most critically, a plea bargain process has evidently been opened with vice president cheney's lawyer. that does not mean that an indictment is coming. but i've some critical background around the issue. in the past several days, former secretary of state colin powell had a meeting with senator john mccain (R-AZ), primarily about the mccain-sponsored amendment on inserting a rider prohibiting torture onto the us defense budget (a bill which powell has himself been lobbying heavily for, against objections of president bush). during the meeting, powell recounted to the senator that he had traveled on air force one with bush and cheney, and brought to their attention a classified memorandum about the issue of whether there was indeed a transaction inolving niger and yellow cake uranium. the document included ambassador joe wilson's involvement and identified his wife, valerie plame, as a covert agent. the memorandum further stated that this information was secret. powell told mccain that he showed that memo only to two people--president and vice president. according to powell, cheney fixated on the wilson/plame connection, and plame's status. powell testified about this exchange in great length to the grand jury investigating the plame case. according to sources close to the case, powell appeared convinced that the vice president played a focal role in disclosing plame's undercover status. in his conversation with mccain, powell felt that--at a minimum--there would be a serious shakeup at national security council as a consequence. in particular, vice president cheney would no longer hold a pivotal role in us national security affairs. powell apparently did not discuss the potential of a cheney resignation. lead prosecutor patrick fitzgerald has apparently been looking at the precedent of formerly indicted nixon vice president spiro agnew. this shows the likely path, because addressing executive immunity and privilege questions would necessarily begin start with a plea-bargain deal that would entail a resignation. this is all likely to occur within the next week. 28 october (next friday) is the last day of the grand jury, and no requests have been made to extend their session. the investigator is expecting to wrap up by then. there are enormous implication for what would be the biggest white house shakeup since the iran-contra scandal in the reagan era. president bush's approval rating at 39% has already led to a significant decrease in policy efficacy with key legislators in congress. i'll spin out the broader policy implications when i have some time to write at greater length, but i wanted to get this out immediately. one interesting point though--it is worth noting that a parade of senior republican senators have evidently been privately pushing mccain to lobby to be cheney's replacement. senator lindsey graham (R-SC) has also been mentioned. meanwhile, the white house has already been developing countermeasures--notably including senior white house officials privately voicing president bush's disappointment in karl rove's involvement in the case, calling it "misconduct." an urgent search for a rove replacement is already underway. ------------------------------ From: "Richard Morris" Subject: Re: 2/23/71 on bt.etree.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:49:31 -0700 I will work on it this weekend ... get it out to you Monday. Two things gonna slow me down: one is I have a gig tomorrow night, but more importantly, there is some other tasty stuff up on bt etree, and I am pulling it in as I type. Will include that as well. R. "Tony & Beth" wrote in message news:OSf6f.35$Db7.29@trndny05... > Now that was quick!! > > Thanks, Richard. I owe you twice now. Looks like that 72 I was gonna > pass on thanks to you just got a buddy. > > Much, much, and much thank you, Richard. > > I'm very good in English. > > NFA, > Tony > > > > > "Richard Morris" wrote in message > news:UvednRQOb5umFMTenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Tony, I have already downloaded it and can send it to you on the same >> disc as the 1972 show that I am gonna send you this weekend. >> >> R. >> >> >> "Tony & Beth" wrote in message >> news:qLf6f.1260$c4.1193@trndny03... >>>I was wondering if anyone has picked this up and would be willing to >>>please b/p this show for me. >>> >>> I would appreciate anyone's help, as it's not on the archive (I don't >>> know why). >>> >>> Please contact me via email. You will need to alter my email address a >>> bit. >>> >>> Thank you for any help. >>> >>> NFA, >>> Tony >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------ From: "Tony & Beth" Subject: Re: 2/23/71 on bt.etree.org Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:53:45 GMT Don't sweat it. You've been very kind and helpful, and I very much appreciate it. I'm in no hurry. And thank you for the extras! NFA, Tony "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:8eGdnaeC3JU5EcTenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >I will work on it this weekend ... get it out to you Monday. Two things >gonna slow me down: one is I have a gig tomorrow night, but more >importantly, there is some other tasty stuff up on bt etree, and I am >pulling it in as I type. Will include that as well. > > R. > > "Tony & Beth" wrote in message > news:OSf6f.35$Db7.29@trndny05... >> Now that was quick!! >> >> Thanks, Richard. I owe you twice now. Looks like that 72 I was gonna >> pass on thanks to you just got a buddy. >> >> Much, much, and much thank you, Richard. >> >> I'm very good in English. >> >> NFA, >> Tony >> >> >> >> >> "Richard Morris" wrote in message >> news:UvednRQOb5umFMTenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> Tony, I have already downloaded it and can send it to you on the same >>> disc as the 1972 show that I am gonna send you this weekend. >>> >>> R. >>> >>> >>> "Tony & Beth" wrote in message >>> news:qLf6f.1260$c4.1193@trndny03... >>>>I was wondering if anyone has picked this up and would be willing to >>>>please b/p this show for me. >>>> >>>> I would appreciate anyone's help, as it's not on the archive (I don't >>>> know why). >>>> >>>> Please contact me via email. You will need to alter my email address a >>>> bit. >>>> >>>> Thank you for any help. >>>> >>>> NFA, >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------ From: "Dave Kelly" Subject: Re: 2/23/71 on bt.etree.org Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:57:38 GMT "Richard Morris" wrote in message news:8eGdnaeC3JU5EcTenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >I will work on it this weekend ... get it out to you Monday. Two things >gonna slow me down: one is I have a gig tomorrow night * Richard...I KNOW the $$ is good...But could you please consider giving some of the younger Chippendale Dancers a shot at the weekend bread?...maybe give you a chance to finally wash the construction worker outfit? Just a thought. Sweetbac Productions ------------------------------ From: snapperjackson@gmail.com Subject: SAT Vegoose Stadium tic for sale Date: 21 Oct 2005 18:08:49 -0700 if you're just looking for a Sam Boyd ticket for Saturday, email me off-list ... snapperjackson at yahoo dot com ------------------------------ From: naught@nil.com Subject: Re: What is a good "B" rated movie? Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:19:31 +0000 (UTC) My favorite: The Man With the X-Ray Eyes with Ray Milland. ------------------------------ From: "Steve Terry" Subject: Re: Porky RIP Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:28:05 -0500 "Dave Kelly" wrote in message news:6df6f.5042$BZ5.2779@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > Gordon "Porky" Lee's movies were a MAJOR > influence on my youth....and served as a road map > on my way to finally becoming a man. NOBODY > rocked a pin wheel hat...AND got the chicks like "Porky" > When he bounced the screen, he had me at "Otay" > I will be in seclusion until further notice. I'm an Alfalfa man myself. His work on It's A Wonderful Life was brilliant, BRILLIANT I say. ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: yet another great spot for downloads... Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:26:01 +0900 "Nick's Picks" wrote in message news:1129824234.887011.192080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > http://www.shnflac.net/ > also may i recommend everyone check out yeeshkul: http://www.yeeshkul.com/torrenttrader/index.php -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: bigchuck51@aol.com Subject: Jerry does Bob Dylan Permavine+, noB noP Date: 21 Oct 2005 18:40:31 -0700 Let's complete the trifecta. Thanks to our man Steve in Japan I have these to send down the road. Jerry Does Dylan compilation plus JGB rehersals on 1/7/76 and JGB on 2/14/76 all in SHN format. I will send them noB noP to the first to respond to me directly with their snail mail address and a promise to re-offer them in the same fashion, noB noP. later- Jerry Does Dylan A Compilation DISC ONE - ACOUSTIC 1. When I Paint My Masterpiece (9:42) (Garcia & Kahn, Auditorium Theatre, Rochester, NY, 11/27/84) 2. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes ATrain To Cry (5:47) (Garcia & Kahn, Boston Opera House, 6/28/82) 3. Little Sadie (3:14) (Garcia, Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ, 4/10/82, Early Show) 4. Going, Going, Gone (4:19) (Garcia & Kahn, Kabuki Theatre, San Francisco, 8/23/82, Late Show) 5. She Belongs To Me (5:56) (Garcia & Grisman, The Warfield, San Francisco, 5/92) 6. Simple Twist of Fate (10:42) (Garcia & Kahn, Boston Opera House, 6/28/82) DISC TWO - ELECTRIC 1. When I Paint My Masterpiece (13:39) (JGB, 7/27/80, Palace Theatre, Albany, NY) 2. Tears of Rage (10:44) (JGB, 1/31/91, The Warfield, San Francisco) 3. Forever Young (8:38) (JGB, 8/24/91, Goldcoast Concert Bowl, Squaw Valley, CA) 4. Wicked Messenger (10:19) (Legion of Mary, 4/11/75, Tower Theatre, Upper Darby, PA, Late Show) 5. Positively 4th Street (9:51) (JGB, 10/31/75, Tower Theatre, Upper Darby, PA, Late Show) 6. Knockin' On Heaven's Door (7:37) (JGB, 8/30/87, The Greek Theatre, Berkeley, CA) 7. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry (6:22) (Garcia & Saunders, 7/10/73, The Keystone, Berkeley, CA) DISC THREE - ELECTRIC 1. Going, Going, Gone (12:00) (Garcia & Saunders, 11/16/74, Tower Theatre, Upper Darby, PA, Early Show) 2. Tough Mama (8:18) (JGB, 7/8/77, Calderone Concert Hall, Hempstead, NY, Early Show) 3. Senor (7:56) (JGB, 11/7/93, USAir Arena, Landover, MD) 4. Simple Twist of Fate (14:19) (JGB, 7/24/80, Bushnell Auditorium, Hartford) 5. I Shall Be Released (8:42) (JGB, 9/1/90, Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA) 6. Tangled Up In Blue (12:20) (JGB, 8/8/90, The Warfield, San Francisco) Jerry Garcia Band 2/14/76 Keystone, Berkeley, CA SOURCE: SBD> MReel> Cassette> DAT> CD> (EAC)WAV DISC 1 (Set 1) 01 Second That Emotion 02 They Love Each Other 03 I Want To Tell You 04 Russian Lullaby 05 Tore Up Over You 06 The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down 07 After Midnight DISC 2 (Set Two) 01 Sitting Here In Limbo 02 A Strange Man 03 Catfish John 04 Mystery Train 05 Moonlight Mile 06 How Sweet It Is Jerry Garcia Band Rehearsal January 7, 1976, Palo Alto, CA Jerry Garcia: Guitar James Booker: Piano, Organ, Vocals John Kahn: Bass Ron Tutt: Drums 1. Tico Tico (piano) 10:58 2. Tico Tico (organ jam) 5:15 3. Don't Try To Be Your's Brother's Keeper 6:17 4. Don't Try To Be Your's Brother's Keeper 9:25 5. Something You've Got 1:09 6. Something You've Got 3:54 7. Just A Closer Walk With Thee 3:56 8. Irene Goodnight 6:10 9. United, Our Thing Will Stand 9:26 10. Classified 9:45 11. Right Back Together (Intro) 0:35 12. Right Back Together 10:45 ------------------------------ From: "band beyond description" <123@456.com> Subject: Re: The Best Hangover Movie Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:31:53 +0900 "Randy G" wrote in message news:1129910557.920120.291140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Leaving Las Vegas > Barfly -- Peace, Steve ------------------------------ From: "ck" Subject: Re: I feel weirded out this morning. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:41:58 -0400 "ba ba booie" wrote in message news:17878-4359003E-458@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net... > > I feel weirded out this morning. > > > cpkver8@BURDENadelphia.net > (ck) wrote: > but strangely enough a-holes often go unpunished in this world. The next > one however is sure to hold a suprise. > > bbb wrote: > Which one are you talking about? > The world or the a-hole > that will hold a suprise? > > > > . > . > . > Have you checked these sites out today? > http://www.jambase.com > http://www.jambands.com > http://www.jambase.com/festivals > . > > Find out where your favorite band is playing. > Pollstar (the concert hotwire) http://pollstar.com > ok , the suprise will be for the a-holes in the next world/life/existence etc... capce? Shame on them for giving you grief very unkind , veeery unkiynd. Anyway my friend has two Cream tix for Tuesday's show in sec 314 row E and will take face=$200.00 ea for them if you know anyone who might be interested in them speak up. ------------------------------ From: "Bzl." Subject: Re: GDTSTOO - New Year's with Phil Lesh and Friends. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:46:58 -0400 wrote in message news:1129925211.809072.122180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Huh. So Ryan Adams is out for "personal reasons". Somebody--I forget > who-- said it here a week or so ago. And Joan (whom I like) is back. > Ahh, the intrigue... > Plus, John Mayer Trio opening means that Mayer could hop in a cab after > his set and head over to GAMH and maybe mix it up with Kimock for a > tune or two. I'd pay to see that. > Mayer's pop stuff is a waste, but when he wants to tear it up on the > strat, he's pretty good. > > Larry > Mayer was pretty impressive doing just that, opening for the Stones, in DC a couple weeks ago. Mostly blues, with some Hendrix thrown in. Steve Jordan and Pino Palladino are the other "trio" members... they are *not* hacks! ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Republicans hate you and want you dead: the 10/20/05 edition (NDC) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:53:30 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:24:07 -0700, "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote: > >"Rupert" wrote in message >news:1129904791.357896.257980@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> If Mickey D's has no accountability, then perhaps we can make them stop >> marketing their product to children ie: putting toys in the fucking >> meal! >> >> After having seen "Supersize Me" I think that anything that bad for you >> should be regulated just like booze and cigarettes. > > >Yeah, instead of shifting societal gears in the direction of more freedom, >towards legalizing marijuana, we should make more things illegal, regulate >more things, and give the Bush / Swarzenegger regimes more power than they >have now to tell us all how to live our lives. > >Next to go after fast food: veggie burritos (unknown ingredients), grilled >cheeses ( too much fat & grease), and of course beer. Anyone who has a >hangover should be able to sue Sierra Nevada Brewery and drive them out of >business for selling their dangerous product to an ignorant and >Stepford-like public. Loud music causes hearing loss, so live music >obviously should be banned; or maybe Arnold and George can write decibel >regs so Phil can't be heard in the back row, > >This law is long overdue. If someone wants to kill themselves with Big Macs >that's their problem. Just like cigarettes, everyone knows fast food is >gunk and if eaten in large amounts will harm you. There are far better >choices in food. > >That's the key: choices. Or do we plead for Arnold & George to supply >government approved shopping lists since we're too dumb to decide anything >for ourselves? > >It takes a smidgeon of personal responsibility and awareness to successfully >navigate living in a modern society. The fast food ingredients are already >avilable to anyone who cares to learn what they are eating. The publicity >around people getting obese from fast food is everywhere. Everyone knows. > >It absolutely amazes me that so-called hippies are so helpless, so stupid, >so unaware that they need Republican politicians to tell them what's safe >and what's not. > >Maybe the age of adulthood should be raised from 18 and 21 to 40? 50? 60? > >EGBH > > Well, I'm a 50-something and, for the most part, I've managed to fend off adulthood so far. I'd have been more successful at it if I hadn't had to work for 30+ years. JimK ------------------------------ From: bigchuck51@aol.com Subject: Re: 2/23/71 on bt.etree.org Date: 21 Oct 2005 18:58:01 -0700 The construction worker is OK, you have to look out for the policeman (Village Peoples) He was a no-show at court and now all YMCA's are under stakeout. forewarned is 'fore armed...later- ------------------------------ From: JimK Subject: Re: Republicans hate you and want you dead: the 10/20/05 edition (NDC) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:57:35 -0400 Reply-To: jkezwind@comcast.net On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:27:44 -0700, "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy" wrote: > >"JC Martin" wrote in message >news:BTa6f.317$te3.5024@typhoon.sonic.net... >> Everybody's Gonna Be Happy wrote: >>> "Rupert" wrote in message >>> news:1129904791.357896.257980@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>>If Mickey D's has no accountability, then perhaps we can make them stop >>>>marketing their product to children ie: putting toys in the fucking >>>>meal! >>>> >>>>After having seen "Supersize Me" I think that anything that bad for you >>>>should be regulated just like booze and cigarettes. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yeah, instead of shifting societal gears in the direction of more >>> freedom, towards legalizing marijuana, we should make more things >>> illegal, regulate more things, and give the Bush / Swarzenegger regimes >>> more power than they have now to tell us all how to live our lives. >>> >>> Next to go after fast food: veggie burritos (unknown ingredients), >>> grilled cheeses ( too much fat & grease), and of course beer. Anyone who >>> has a hangover should be able to sue Sierra Nevada Brewery and drive them >>> out of business for selling their dangerous product to an ignorant and >>> Stepford-like public. Loud music causes hearing loss, so live music >>> obviously should be banned; or maybe Arnold and George can write decibel >>> regs so Phil can't be heard in the back row, >> >> >> Good way of spelling out the absurdity of such laws. >> >> >>> This law is long overdue. If someone wants to kill themselves with Big >>> Macs that's their problem. Just like cigarettes, everyone knows fast >>> food is gunk and if eaten in large amounts will harm you. There are far >>> better choices in food. >>> >>> That's the key: choices. Or do we plead for Arnold & George to supply >>> government approved shopping lists since we're too dumb to decide >>> anything for ourselves? >>> >>> It takes a smidgeon of personal responsibility and awareness to >>> successfully navigate living in a modern society. The fast food >>> ingredients are already avilable to anyone who cares to learn what they >>> are eating. The publicity around people getting obese from fast food is >>> everywhere. Everyone knows. > > > >>> It absolutely amazes me that so-called hippies are so helpless, so >>> stupid, so unaware that they need Republican politicians to tell them >>> what's safe and what's not. > >> ...or any politician for that matter. > >True. > >But the irony of folks who rail endlessly about the corrupt, evil, murderous >republican regimes demanding they be given MORE power; power to decide what >you EAT for crissakes, sort of took over my post. > >EGBH > It is unfortunate that human beings have a tendency to take good things a little too far. I don't think anyone objects to the FDA or the local health department doing what they have to do to ensure that the food we eat meets minimum safety standards. But then people get carried away and ask them to decide what's good for us, too. 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